Questioner: Namaskaram Sadhguru..
I
Just want to know the basic difference of the way of Shiva and
the way of Buddha..
Sadhguru: It's very easy to talk about buddha's way, Because it's very logical,
It's quite simple actually.
and It's very long drawn-out process.
Generally the methods that gautama gave to people were always a question of a few lifetimes.
You can clearly see this today.
The buddhists are always talking about this.
particularly the Tibetan buddhists.
who are the best-known Buddhists in the world today
for [whatever] political reasons.
They're always talking about a few lifetimes of work.
So if you have that kind of patience, that you're willing to work for a few lifetimes,
Gautama's way' is very efficient ,very logical, scientific, Step-By-step process,
that one can take . Because this is a part of awareness.
the significance of walking the path of awareness is- There are milestones on the way, which
tell you you'll come one mile, two miles ,10 miles
it tells you where you are.
That is the most important aspect .that Is without too much trust or devotion you
can still grow?
Because you have a method to hang on to you just keep doing it, keep doing it keep doing
it..
It clearly shows you.
that you're progressing..
But with Shiva there is no such guarantee and
He doesn't fix milestones.
You don't know whether you're going forward or backward.
But you're going somewhere.
That's all you know.
It's like falling into your bottomless pit. that sounds terrifying..
I want you to understand this : a bottomless pit is the safest place [to] fall into.. a
pit with the bottom is Dangerous, a Bottomless pit is absolutely safe..
Your life is done, if you just jump into it.
It's done.
Simply you fall.
If you ever do ..has anybody done skydiving? you? [did]
so if you have a free fall, Then ..if you do not open your parachute for
a few thousand feet, You don't know whether you're going down or
going up, nothing ,it just feels like you're floating around And it's wonderful.
only when you look down the dam
Planet is coming at you at tremendous speed.
If this planet is taken off, this is a great experience.
Only if you look down, it's just coming at you at tremendous speed.
That's the only problem.
Falling is.. don't understand the falling as
a negative thing, falling is a great thing.
did you ever fall in love?
Only when you hit the bottom, then it gets bad.
If you fell into your bottomless pit, then there is no problem.
So Shiva is a bottomless pit.
His methods are very different.. but ,you cannot limit him that way because
with seven different disciples, the seven Saptarishis that celebrated
Rishi's of the [or], He tought seven basic ways,
In which a human being can explore his consciousness.
from these seven, in multiples of seven ,it went further and 112 different ways he explored
and he said this is all.
This is beautiful story.
no time for stories.
so, He expounded 112 different ways, as to how
a human being can attain to his peak. and
These 112 are the 112 Chakras in the body..
There are 114, but two of them are outside the physical body, he left those two and he
said 112 different ways of attaining.
when you're embodied.
that means Every Chakra in the body, every meeting point
of the energy system one particular way of attaining.
So, he did not leave anything out.
so buddha is a small part of his work.
I Want you to understand..
Gautama himself Didn't go simply sit in the forest,
The eight years of his sadhana.
He spent with various teachers across the country and
The whole spine of this spiritual process, this knowledge has essentially come from Shiva.
Wherever it is, whichever part of the world it is, the basic spiritual process comes from
this spine and it's been taken to different parts of the
world in so many different forms, they look so different, because
These 112 different ways look absolutely different from one another.
So, what is the difference between Shiva and Buddha is not an appropriate question..
Which aspect of Shiva did buddha explore?
He explored the path of awareness, which is one aspect.
It's very you uni- dimensional, but the significance of Gautam Buddha is - he is very
scientific, clinical..
He appeals to the logical mind.
But he is like..
He also sat like this..
Many times he was an ascetic.
He just sat unmoving.
But many times he was a mad, dancing ,drunk..
He was in all kinds of States..
Because he didn't limit himself to any particular dimension.
He just explored every aspect of life.
So what you call as buddha's way- He's just one aspect of this 112 different
ways and So many others have brought so many other
aspects, but individual ways..
Of the seven disciples of the seven Saptarishis - the one who walked south,
south means ,anything south of himalayas is south.
I Am talking to all the Mumbai people.
Anything south of himalayas is south ,so Agastya walked south.
And he became particularly active Beyond the Vindhya mountains.. you know that story
about vindhya mountains bowing down to Agastya Muni, and he never came back, so..
you know thet story?
NO? you must learn something about India..
So particularly the Deccan plateau He spread himself in such a way, every human
habitation in Deccan Plateau he touched.
wherever you see, you will hear something about Agastya Muni and
He started this action for rural rejuvenation.
He did not leave a single human habitation.
He brought spiritual process to everybody's life ,the whole population.
They say he lived over four thousand years.
We don't know how long he lived, but definitely his lifespan was not a normal span of life,
It was extraordinarily long .when you just calculate the mileage that he covered .if
you had put a speedometer on him and Seen how many miles
he covered- you could see it's an extraordinary length of
time.
We don't know whether it's four hundred years, or four thousand years.
people say it's four thousand, but definitely he lived very long
and He touched every habitation and made sure
a spiritual process became a living reality for them.
We are still enjoying his work.
I want you to know.
The Southern part of India is still enjoying his work .a certain.. without knowing why..
a certain level of settled nature That you see is his work.
Because he brought yoga into people's lives, without a label, without a format.
Just like life process, as you wake up in the morning, brush your teeth, cook, eat
all this he made it into a spiritual process.
and We are still enjoying the benefits of that.
If you look at any spiritual process anywhere on the planet, you will see, it is not outside,
the 112 ways in Which Shiva explored this..
So comparing gautama and Shiva is inappropriate.
I Have great respect for gautama.
He's a great being .no question .his work is phenomenal.
He caused a huge spiritual wave, Which is still on after 2,500 years?
But it is not comparable.
It is no way comparable.
All we can say is: Shiva's work Contains Gotama's work as a small element.
it is less than 1% ,because out of 112 Gautama explored one.. and
The important thing is- he marketed it well, and he encouraged thousands of people to take
the path.
That's his success.
But Shiva is little too inebriated to do marketing..
You should do marketing for him.
he is..
He won't do marketing..
But still, I have to Generally, it's believed.
This is somewhere 40 to 60 thousand years ago ,that
He started his work.
But after sixty thousand years or [40] thousand years it is still alive, you can't kill it.
You still can't kill it isn't it?
By the time I am done with my life.
I'm sure I will leave him little more popular than the way he is today..
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