Welcome to a new episode of Reptil.TV
here is today's introduction animal
a very nice Aldabra turtle
some might say, we saw this last month already
the Aldabras on the Seychelles
we are definitely not at the Seychelles, and half an hour back, it was a nice spring day
in Swabia in Germany
I'm here with a friend who owns a terrarium
he is breeding rare turtles
so this is not in nature but about breeding in a terrarium
this is Joerg, the proud owner of this nice animal
and this is not the only one, you have some more
can we have a look today ?
as the sun is hiding behind the clouds, we will go into the basement and check it out
This an outdoor area, used during summer time ?
yes, during summer, as soon as the temperatures are right for the leopard turtles
when it doesn't get below 5 degree Celsius they will stay out here
with these plates that allow UV light to go through
they will stay outside
if you look at their place of origin, south Africa
and compare temperatures, they can have snow during wither time as well
they can survive real low temperatures
but it is different with this Gigantea, which is still in the basement
and will move to the garage and we will sell our car to pay for the reconstruction
and we will build an outdoor area especially for the Giganteas
it gets cold, the Gigantea is eating, but lets go down now
we are now in Joerg's basement
Joerg has very rare land turtles, no water turtles though
he has about 10 species
Pardalis pardalis
Pardalis Babcocki
Aldabrachelys Gigantea
Psammobates Oculiferus, Psammobates Tentorius Veroxii, Homopus Areolatus
Melanochelys Tricarinata, Geochelone Chilensis
Radiata, of course
Geochelone Chilensis
Parvalis
when it comes to names I give up, it has changed recently
and also with some of the rare turtles
so the experts will ...
get jealous when they see this
so lets have a look around
lets start here, he gets his head up
these are Psammobates Tentorius Veroxii
from Namibia and south Africa
in dry areas
little rain and not much food, just straw
a male and a female and the male reacts right away
I generally keep the males separated from the females
the male is the small one, running behind, like in real life
the boys are behind the females
and by their size, they are adult
and the males are somewhat smaller than the females
yes, much smaller, an adult female has a weight from 360 to 500 grams
and a male has 140 to 220 grams
can we say that in general ?
that can be different between the species
the females are bigger with the Radiata and the Pardialis
with the Melanochelys Tricarinata the males are bigger
here can see how a Tsamobati Centurius drinks, which is special for this species
it is so dry in their area, they drink the morning dew
they let them roll down and build kind of a "V"
the water runs down the head
into the mouth
just not as many drops like here
it also stimulates his sexual drive
let go from Namibia to the north
to Egypt
we see the Pseudotestudo Kleinmanni
we see two females, taking a sun shower
they are good to breed
relatively easy to have, with the right light in the terrarium
you say easy to have
Kleinmanni used to get imported for a few bucks
really cheap
and nobody is breeding them
so, is there a trick ?
I don't know if there is a trick
that's right, due to these imports we got many wild catches
and some animals didn't survive the long transports
today we have breedings, they grow up rather fast
but that's not bad if done right
important is the food and the humidity
during summer I heat up to 38 to 40 degrees Celsius
so they don't show up any more
they hide in their places, where it is somewhat colder
we keep it this way until end of august
and than we turn the temperatures down again
during that time its dry and we don't have water
we don't spray
this goes for 3 to 4 month
as soon as it gets warmer down there
ok, but mating time is still in spring ?
well, they don't have a winter rest
they start mating after the dry resting time well, they don't have a winter rest
they start mating after the dry resting time
in nature they start laying their eggs in January to February
in some areas in March
and than 80 to 110 days later the turtles hatch
so it is the dry season in summer time that stimulates the process
exactly, and because they are living in the deserts it is important ...
... to have a difference in temperature between day and night
you have to have 35 degrees Celsius during day time and 20 degrees or less at night
these two are only a few weeks old
and two older ones, about 1 year old
and they are using this terrarium for an extended walk
the big ones are 1 year and the little ones hatched just recently
and they are hatching when ?
mine hatched between January and February
because I might have different temperatures, compared to nature
so I have a little delay
I don't have it exactly like in nature
mine lay their eggs end of December, beginning of January
and than it takes 80 to 110 days for them to hatch
and these are around 2 weeks old
and do the Kleinmanni have one or two nests per year ?
mine have 2 to 4 per year !
and depending on the size of the female ...
... most time 2 to 3 eggs
aha, small nests but 2 to 4 times per year
and from Egypt we just go back
into the Kalahari, where we find these Psammobates Oculiferus
which I keep and breed as well
in Germany they are called "Stachelrand-Schildkröte"
because of the shape of their shell
they are tasting the milk
the one in the back is a female ?
I keep them separated, this is a female
I believe the mother of these two
and how old are the young ones ?
they are from April and October last year
they start around 12 grams
relatively big
this morning I did dig out an egg
it is still cold
I keep them cold, at 18 degrees, for 6 weeks
and after that I raise the temperature slowly and put them into the incubator
so the egg development process can start
especially with the Veroxii
also with the Pardalis Pardalis
and also with the Radiatas
you put the eggs into the cold for the first 6 weeks ?
and in nature, it is also like that, in the colder winter time ?
similar, they lay their eggs just before winter time
the winter down there is also shorter, like ours
they have a cold season of 2 to 3 month
after that the temperatures raise again
and this stimulates the egg to develop
and its similar when they hatch
If I detect that I would need to spray them with water
and that eases up the hard ground
otherwise they would not get out by them selfs and that eases up the hard ground
otherwise they would not get out by them selfs
this morning I found it in this terrarium
you can see it, around the red sand
you can tell by the red sand
yes, you can tell by that
be careful, lets get it out
I heard that before, its difficult to find them
it is important not to turn them as you get them out
it has possibly started development already
don't shake or turn them !
this bigger one is from a 1 year old
this is the demo effect
ok, bring it back into safety, not to risk the baby
I thought I know enough about turtles
but I have no idea what this is ?
these are Homopus Areolatus from South Africa
this male is from Namibia
it was than imported and registered
so we can track it because its a relatively rare species
we got it from Alfred Schleicher
he is the turtles expert in Namibia
he is also offering very interesting tours
not just about turtles but all sorts of reptiles, because he knows Namibia
now about this Statbook again
this is where rare species are registered
these are Annex "B"
but are relatively rare to find in nature
I guess they will get rated higher
but you can breed them relatively easy
and they are perfect for a terrarium because the stay small with only 10 cm
difficult to see with the camera, they are small turtles
this one is the male
interestingly, when the male is ready for matting his nose changes its color
his nose turns into light red
I didn't know that
and how old are the 4 other ones ?
I got them from Sardinia, December 2016
2 years old ?
15 month
they grow very fast
have little hocks
even the male, coming from nature does have them, although not as many
so even in nature they have that
yes, even the Psammobates Tentorius Veroxii with the German name "Zeltschildkröte"
because their hocks look like little tents
now a turtle even I know, the classic Radiata
from Madagascar, right ?
yes
meanwhile they are called Astrochelys radiata
the "Strahlen-Schildkröte" from Madagascar
even non experts know them because they are so typical and everybody wants them
yes, and its the most smuggled turtle in the world
every week by the hundreds
out of Madagascar
a poor country, they sell them on the street there
but no longer about smuggling
I suppose your's are not smuggled
no all legally raised
they are WA1 animals, photographed right after birth
sending their pictures to the authorities and I get the cites paper for them
with photos
and than you have to take new pictures every 6 month
and every 5 years when they get older
of you could implement a chip but that's under debate
and they have to be bigger for that
here are different sizes, how old are they ?
these are bigger ones, from July 2016
lets put my hand inside to compare
this one is from end of 2017
it is only a few weeks old, sold already to a friend of mine
some eggs are a little bit bigger
this smaller animal is from the last hatch
the more hatchings we have the smaller are the eggs
the first ones are bigger and get smaller each time and also the young animals
and about the size of the parents
their mother has 12 Kg
around 40 cm
the father is 8 Kg, the female are bigger than the male
now we are behind the terrarium, where we just filmed
and here we need more space
here we are at the Seychelles
yes, we need more space for these animals and they will move soon
the garage will be rebuilt and the car has to go to make room for the turtles
its hard to carry them in and out of the basement
that's why they will go into the garage
not everyone saw the Aldabra episode
these are Aldabrachelys Gigantea
this big one is a young female
this one will still grow a fair bit
looking at the ground
these wooden particles are the easiest to keep them clean
that's a perfect ground
its under debate but for me that's perfect
we just talked about their intelligence, these ones are easy going
with the bigger species its easier to develop some kind of a relationship
the bigger the Giganteas become the more like it
grooming
the smaller ones are a bit more shy
but at a certain size they start loving it
they stand up for it
compare it to a dog or cat
nice animals
and they grow up nicely
Those ones I bought back in 2016
and the bigger ones have over 2 Kg already
they are fun to have
Giganteas are my recommendation if you have the room for them
here we have the Stygmochelys Pardalis Pardalis from South Africa
this is the main type of the so called "Panther-Schildkröte"
and the sub part are the Babcocki which are smaller
except the Somalia family
the Babcocki are mostly sold as "Panther-Schildkörte" in the stores
and here we see a Babcocki to compare
and around here we have the Pardalis pardalis
the more rare sub type of this species
yes, they are more rare
and for me the Pardalis pardalis are easier to keep
they are relatively uncomplicated with the temperature
I keep them outside during summer time, even 5 degrees at night is ok
that's perfect for this small male back there, this way he is sexually more active the next day
this one under the red lamp is the male
and the other ones are the females
these females are between 17 and 20 Kg
this female is around 12 Kg and layed their first 8 eggs this year
and the Pardalis pardalis have a much rougher climate
compared to the more common Babcockis
yes, I would describe them as tropical turtles, that have it also warm at night
where the Pardalis pardalis can have some snow at winter times
their nights are cold, during day time around 20 degrees
not like a European turtle, constantly cold
rough nights and sunny days with 20 degrees and more
I keep them in here during wither time and in summer they live outside
and they have a nice texture, lets spray them a little bit
and they have a different shape
the young ones are not as tall
but longer and have two dots on their shields
and show some sun sparkles
compared to the Babcockis
they like these Opuntia, and get enough calcium through that
plus hay during wither time
these two like my sneakers
now we go to South America
to Chile and Argentina
yes, these are Geochelone Chilensis
not found in Chile though
not sure who named them this way
perhaps someone found them in Chile
but they are from Paraguay and Argentina
and the northern type is smaller
where the southern type becomes much bigger
not available in stores
only as farm breedings from Argentina
they are annex "B"
tehy are easy to keep when they get used to it
nature catches show a high loss
there used to be many, but many losses as well
amongst the imports
in Argentina they are sold at the street, even as food
you can buy lots of them there
but I know nobody who breeds them
and does it work for you ?
I had eggs and am waiting for them to develop
the male is mating, that works
and now I'm waiting, you need to have time ...
turtles take their time ...
but it is a nice turtle because they are so easy to keep
they like our temperatures
I use our summer for their winter
because we have relatively low temperatures during our summer nights
not to bad
and on to a new continent again
from South America to Asia
and here we see the Melanochelys Tricarinata
they are ground turtles, around the Himalaya area
a rare terrarium species
easy to keep but difficult to breed
there are some in Austria, from Peter Braschack and Dr. Valentin
I hope I will have success as well
the young ones are very colorful
as they grow up the colors disappear somewhat
so far we had more desert types
now more tropical and earth bound
they have it hot in summer, up to 38 degrees
cooling down during wither time
around 10 degrees
you can have them in a cool room
you can have them together but I keep the males separated from the females
two males in here and two females over there
males are difficult to keep together amongst many reptiles
and this isn't any problem here ?
yes, you can do it
they don't hurt each other
when they mate they are more on the rough side
sometimes a female gets hurt slightly
I had that as well
but I have a dealer who sells this "Hydroliq"
and this helps with small wounds
and I use this "Hydroliq" to treat that
works great
if anyone thinks we planned to say this, NO
not my idea :-)
here we are in a tight spot
now the incubators
they are well loaded
you are using the industrial types ?
what is inside ?
lets have a look
just a moment
here we can see the difference in size
Pardalis pardalis
Pardalis babcocki
relatively big
tehy are from this other female who layed eggs for the first time, somewhat smaller
these eggs are from July, their siblings hatched already
if they don't develop I take them out into the cold for another 8 weeks again
put them back in
after that you can forget it
here we see an development
so they need this colder time ?
for initialization ?
yes, I have three breeds from this hatch already, I'm now waiting for the last one
to hatch
July and now we April
around 9 month
so we wait a little bit longer
the same for Pardalis and Babcocki ?
with the Babcockis I dig out their eggs and put them directly into the incubator
and Pardalis pardalis are like I said
start cool, yes
Kleinmanni as well
with the Radiatas cold at first as well
and than warm
Oculiferus and Veroxii the same, first cold, tahn warm
and this works best for me, don't touch a running system
ok, lets close it before it gets to cold
we are back where we started
a few hours later and I found it very interesting
that's what I wanted to show
this great installation with great results
and you really breed all your animals your self
not right now ...
but you aim for it
another great home story on our Reptil.TV channel
this time we had the turtles
we learned a lot, even me with 30 years experience
thanks a lot
and if anyone wants to ask anything ?
if anybody wants an animal or is interested
just contact Stefan and he passes it on to me
I don't have the time to answer thousands of emails ...
job, family and 3 hours down here every day is enough ...
so we had this deal ...
to keep this away from you ...
you better look after the animals
thanks Joerg and thanks for watching
stay true, check my balls and check Joerg's turtles
hello to a new "follow" of Reptil.TV ...
you don't do this for to long, down all these stairs
the turtles grow and you get older
I'm not used to it any more, I get drunk after 4 and more beers :-)
when we where you we would have 25 of them :-)
and this even the light type ...
try again without sneezing ...
ok, one more time again ...
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