(slow calming music)
- Hello Hearties and fans of When Calls the Heart
worldwide, I'm Executive Producer Brian Bird.
Welcome to our first ever post season Facebook Live
After Show right here on the set
of Hallmark Channel's Home and Family.
We're thrilled if you're joining us live but hope you'll
watch this whenever you can in the next few days.
I'm honored to be here with some of the most
important cast members of our show.
Lori Loughlin, Erin Krakow and Daniel Lissing.
- [All] Yay!
- Right, right here live and well.
Now obviously after last nights season five finale,
you have a lot of questions and we wanna
answer as many of them as we can.
We'll even be taking some from you
on Facebook during this session.
We'll also talk a little bit about the exciting season six
which is already in the planning stages, so let's dive in.
All right Lori, as executive producer
on When Calls the Heart why don't you take us through
this transition that we've just gone through.
- Well, season five was I think one of our best seasons
but certainly filled with a lot of emotion.
First and foremost, I want to say to all of our fans
that the three of us here are very good friends
and we all love each other and we support each other.
But we are actors and actors have contracts and sometimes
contracts expire and you have a choice to make.
You either renegotiate or you don't
and Dan has chosen to move on, we respect that.
No judgment, we love him, we wish him well,
he's still part of the Hallmark family
so I just wanna clear the air and just say that.
Nothing but love for Dan and the fans I know will
continue to support him as we will.
With Dan's departure led us to a tricky decision to make
which was what to do with the character of Jack Thornton.
So many scenarios and we read 'em all,
on Twitter and Facebook were floated.
When I tell you we thought of all of them too.
We talked about it and then we talked
about it again and we talked about it again.
Do we recast the role?
No, we can't recast the role.
How can you recast the role? (Jack laughs)
No, no and plus the chemistry that these two
have we just didn't feel like, the writers
didn't feel that that was possible.
Well do we send him off to the northern territories?
But we knew our time was limited with Dan and the actor
wouldn't be coming back so now if we sent him off
to the northern territories, now we have
Elizabeth sitting in Hope
Valley. - [Brian] Pining away,
- Just pining away - [Brian] In Hope Valley.
And waiting and not much story to tell.
Then we also floated the idea, the writers came up
with, well what if he before they got engaged,
what if he just came to her and said Mountie duties
call and I'm breaking up with you and I'm moving on.
Really when you thought about that, we were like
no, no there's no way,
There's no way Jack - [Brian] Not possible.
Thornton would ever leave Elizabeth Thatcher like that.
The only way he would leave her is in death.
That was a really hard decision for the
writers to make truly, truly it was.
But I want the fans to know that we in making
that decision, we really did take you into consideration
because then what we tried to do working backwards
from that was we tried to give you everything
that you asked for in this relationship, an engagement.
(slow calming music)
- I've waited so long for this.
- It's good to be home.
- [Lori] A wedding.
- It is my great pleasure to now pronounce you
husband and wife.
Jack, you may kiss your, bride.
(laughter)
- A baby on the way.
Yes the circumstances weren't ideal
but they were what they were, so we tried to make
the best of it and we tried to give our audience
what we thought they wanted.
- Good morning Ms. Thornton - Good morning Mr. Thornton
You're going to spoil me. - I'm gonna try.
- So that's how we came to that decision.
And like I said, it wasn't easy.
I do think that we had a phenomenal season.
The three of us watched together, last night.
I mean Dan Even turned to me last night
and he said, "this is one of the, this is like
the best episode we've ever done".
- [Brian] Hmm, it was.
- So, anyway, that's how we came to that decision.
It was not an easy one, we do love our fan base.
And, you know, we hope you understand,
and you'll continue to support us.
- We wouldn't even have this school house
if it wasn't for Mountie Jack.
- We'd still be doing school in the saloon.
(laughter)
- So we thought, what better way to remember Mountie Jack
- Than by doing this (heartfelt music)
- [Elizabeth] When someone like Jack
gives so much of themselves, they're never really gone.
Their in everything we see and touch and feel.
Thank you for this, I just love you all so much.
- [Brian] So Dan, we have millions of Hearties
breaking the internet right now.
- Really, I hadn't noticed.
(laughter)
- So what the heck just happened to Jack Thornton?
- Well I think Lori covered it really nicely.
You know, circumstances arose for me where I needed
to leave When Calls the Heart.
For reasons that are very personal to me.
And I went to Hallmark and they were nothing but supportive
of me, we spoke about it, they were nothing but supportive
of me, and, you know, our relationship, Hallmark,
our relationship, with the girls,
my relationship with the fans,
it's a very very positive one.
And I'm just very excited to see what the future brings.
- [Brian] That's awesome, that's awesome.
Well, you know, we've all been talking about this
for a long time.
- [Lori] We have.
- And it was the, the toughest secret
to keep in the history of the world right now.
- It was, it was.
- [Brian] But, you know, uh.
- I feel relieved. - I do to.
- Now that we can finally talk about it.
- [Brian] It is.
- But I know that Erin does too
because, Erin and I.
Look I kid you not, every day for the last year and a half
we've,
- We've talked about this so much
- We have talked about this in some capacity, because.
- We care.
- Yeah, we do care, and it was not an easy decision.
- [Erin] And it, Bryan sorry, if I may just jump in.
- [Brian] Please
- Since you're saying that we've been holding
onto this for a while and there is some relief,
I just want to say that there have been
so many comments from the Hearties.
Good, bad, ugly.
And many of the Hearties are coming to our defense,
saying "please don't attack our cast,
please don't attack the writers".
It's very sweet, but the truth is,
have whatever reaction you need to have,
get it out there, it's fine.
We've known about this for such a long time
and we've also had the privileged, let's call it,
of getting to act it out, and that's sort of
a cathardic process for us.
So, don't worry, have whatever feelings you need to have.
We've got a great season six coming your way,
and we hope you'll join us for that.
- [Brian] Right, and the, and just the episode
last night, I, I think grief counselors could use that
episode as a, a tool to help people.
Because you, Erin, you held the hands of the viewers
and took them through this experience with you.
And it was a very, very powerful experience.
- [Daniel] Could I just say that it, it,
Erin's performance last night was,
- [Brian] Unbelievable
- Unbelievable, and when we're sitting there watching it
and, Lori as well I mean, the arc of her character
through this last episode and, was amazing to watch.
And Lori was actually saying last night that,
if you don't win an award for this episode.
- I honestly think it should be nominated for an Emmy.
- You guys are, you're very generous, thank you.
But I'm also one small piece in the puzzle
of our amazing ensemble show, and,
yes Jack and Elizabeth...
- [Lori] But you carried, you carried.
- Well, okay, thank you very much.
- [Lori] You did
- That's the way I feel as well,
you know, I'm one small piece of a very, very big puzzle,
led by Erin, Lori, and I just want the fans to know that,
how much I love them and how much, how difficult
that this entire process has been,
and this decision has been.
And so, there's been a lot of support
around me with this and I just want to thank them.
But we'll get to that after.
- [Erin] We just hijacked your interview, sorry.
- That's okay, this is Facebook live.
We're going to take it as it comes and figure it out.
So talk about how you prepared for this last,
really the last two episodes of the season.
- Well, uh, you know I should have a great answer
prepared for this, but the truth is,
I was just sad that Dan was leaving.
That's the bottom line, we were all really sad about it.
And that's hard, I mean.
Dan has been, well so has Lori, but Dan in many ways
has been my partner in crime for five years
and, one of my greatest scene partners ever,
and I'm just really gonna miss him, um.
- We knew this tissue under the coffee table
was going to pay off.
(laughter)
- So there was that, and then also,
the truth behind this story is heartbreaking.
I mean I have, I've played a woman who has lost her
military fiance, her husband, a few times now.
Um, but, but this felt very special because this character,
these characters are all so close to me.
- [Jack's Voiceover] I need you to promise
me one thing Elizabeth.
You will open your heart to love again.
Know that I want nothing more than your happiness.
You are the perfect woman.
You showed me what it feels like to be truly loved.
For that, I am eternally grateful.
Yours forever, Jack.
(somber music)
- All you have to do is think about it and the tears fall.
- And having said that, that's not, uh,
we just want the fans to know that that's
not what we plan to continue doing in our show.
- [Erin] No!
- This was a unique situation.
We're not going to move forward and kill off characters.
- [Erin] Right.
- That's not what we want to do.
The very reason for ending the episode
on Elizabeth finding out that she's having a baby,
is to prepare, is symbolic of season six.
And, it's a rebirth and starting over.
And it's about community, and it's about, you know,
forging ahead, and finding the joy again in life.
So we're not gonna be walking around next season mourning.
Of course we will talk about the Jack character,
we will celebrate the birth of the baby,
and we have other great stories to tell.
But we just want everyone to know that, you know,
we're getting back to business
and hopefully the way that you guys like it.
- You know there are happy endings, right.
Usually one When Calls the Heart, and I can't think
of a happier ending than what we saw last night,
because you went through this incredible
journey of getting through the grief,
or at least partially through the grief process,
and then all the sudden there's a baby on the way.
- Who knew.
- There's a little Jack, or a little Jackquelin on the way.
(laughter)
- That's right.
- And Jack Thornton's legacy will be alive
and will valley forever, 'cause the school's named
after him too. - That's true
- Of course, yes. - [Brian] That's right.
Well Dan and Erins questions for you.
Favorite memories of working together on the show.
- Oh - Uh there have been so many.
(laughter)
Look, you know, when you're lucky enough to have
a work partner like Erin, and they become one of your best
friends in the world, and you get to spend, you know,
a good portion of your year with them, day in and day out,
doing what you love doing, it's, it's a no brainer.
It's pretty special, so, we've got so many great memories.
And I think that the whole journey that we've taken
together as actors and as friends has really,
it's something that I will hold
in my heart forever, forever.
So, I mean the best, she said I was one of
the best scene partners she's ever had.
- Lori is sitting right next to me.
- Hey, hey, hey! (laughter)
- She is the best scene partner I've ever had.
Oh hey Erin, wait I thought that you meant, like,
romantic, lead opposite man scene part.
- Oh I didn't specify but.
- I think that Lori's in a different category.
- You know what, yes
- Lori's in a category of her own.
- You guys have a very special chemistry,
and it's been a joy to watch, truly it really has been.
- This is, you are, I mean uh. - I know.
- [Brian] Erin how about you.
- How am I supposed to top that?
I mean, that was a great answer.
Uh, I did really like shooting the wedding though.
That very special, and in many ways it felt
like a gift to the Hearties that we could give them that,
but also so lovely for all of us.
We've been rooting for this love story
for a long time now and it was nice to get to seal the deal.
I don't know, what do you, I mean.
- Yeah, but I agree.
- [Brian] Some people might say consummate the wedding.
(laughter)
- We were waiting for the wedding, as just as and
looking forward to, just as much as the fans were, truly.
- [Brian] That's right, that's right.
Well you know, we took a cue from Downton Abbey
in trying to figure out how to make this transition,
and what the creators of Downton Abbey did on their show,
when Dan Steven's left the show after the third season,
is they said, we have to leave the, Marry and Matthew,
the characters on that show,
in the best possible place ever,
before we go through this catharsis, right?
And this ending of this one character.
And, what better place could we have left the two of you,
than with that epic wedding, right?
And so, I know some of the fans are saying,
how could you give us a wedding and then yank it all away
just five episodes later, but honestly, on Downton Abbey,
they lost their child, or they gave birth to their child
and then Matthew passed away in a car accident,
literally within seconds of that.
So this is sometimes how you have
to get through these catharses.
- [Lori] Right
- Right and as we were saying before,
like with every death comes rebirth.
And I feel like in season six, there,
well there's gonna be the birth
of Jack and Elizabeth's child.
And I think Hope Valley will have a rebirth as well.
- That's right.
The people of Hope Valley are too special to me.
I couldn't leave, this is where I belong, same as you.
No matter what happens, I'm staying right where I am.
And that's a promise.
- [Brian] So Dan, can you sum up
what it's been like to be on the show of five season?
- See, it just brings a smile to my face thinking about it.
You know, in all honesty, it's been the honor of my career
to play Jack, it's been the honor of my career
to work with these two amazing women,
who I consider some of my best friends in the world.
I love these two.
And Hallmark has been, just amazing and I hope that
we're able to, I hope that we can work together again,
with Hallmark, I really do hope for that.
And I'll be pushing for it, so we'll see what happens but.
- And that's the other thing too, Dan is still a part
of the Hallmark family, he's not going anywhere.
So, you know, um.
- So, to play Jack Thornton, what a tremendous character
to play for five season on an American television show.
You know when I came out to the United States as, like a
a guy that was playing music in bars in Sydney,
to think that I would play a character like Jack
on an American television show is, like, well, beyond me.
Beyond anything I could have ever imagined, really.
And so, it's been for me, an amazing learning
experience in life, it's really highlighted what's
important to me in life and in work life.
And I've made some relationships through this show
that I will hold with me for the rest of my life.
So, and another thing, you know when you're on a television
show, you have a fan base, and I.
Well, Hearties, I know it's hard for you right now,
it's very hard for me as well, but I got to say, like,
never did I imagine that I would, personally.
And I know the girls feel the same way.
That I would personally have a fan base,
(laughter) at all.
And the fact that you've supported me through this journey,
playing Jack Thornton, means the world to me.
And I will never take that for granted
and I will continue to do my best for you all.
And, I just, I'm just so grateful to have played Jack.
I'm so grateful.
- Yeah, and we just want to thank the fans, you know,
in advance for all the support they have given us.
And we want to thank Hallmark.
And again, we want to say to all the fans,
please don't be angry with the network or the writers
it's really important.
Like Dan said, he went to them, everyone was very gracious.
They said, you know what, we understand we,
you want to move on, we gotcha.
And we've all been super supportive of that.
And we hope the fans will continue to support us
because we are a community,
and you're a part of our community, and Hope Valley
is a community, and the Hearties are a community
and communities come together and they lift each other up.
And I hope you will continue to do that for us,
and we will try to do that for you.
- What are you smiling at?
- We're a part of a community that cares.
- [Brian] You know, the Hearties, the Hearties
are the most loyal, compassionate fan base, I think,
of any television show ever.
- Yes.
- [Brian] Now they don't put on foil hats
and go to Star Trek conventions and try to become aliens,
but they love the show so much.
(laughter) - That's okay too
- Because, yes, that's okay too, that's okay.
But it's, this show has become so important to them
and I think that's why they feel so deeply about it.
- [Lori] I know - Right
- So, when something strikes you so deeply
and becomse a family member
- I know.
- Well, family members can sometimes,
you can be angry with them, right?
Sometimes you can love them unconditionally.
Sometimes you can be, let them go
and do what they want to do and give them the freedom
that they need to do, sometimes you do all those things
at once with your own family members.
And so I thin that it's a tribute
to the work that you all have done.
- And Hallmark writing and putting the show together,
and these characters, and then the casting.
Because you know, I think that the chemistry with all of us,
the writing, Hallmark putting this show out to these fans.
It's a testament to the work that everyone has done
behind the scenes to bring these characters to life
and to have built that, this, you know,
this amazing fan base called the Hearties.
- And I also think, you know, we read a lot on Twitter
where people were upset, and understandably so,
and like Erin said, they haven't had that moment to grieve
and process like we have. - Right.
- So, I think, you know initially I was kind of
not, I knew they would be upset,
but I really tried to say okay, you know.
And I remembered when I was a child,
I used to watch, 'cause I was so crazy,
I used to watch Lassie, well anyone who knows me
knows I'm an animal lover, but.
I remember at one point, because Lassie was always
in some kind of trouble, I would be so distraught, right.
You were talking about how, like,
a show means so much to you.
And I remember my dad saying at one point, you know,
you're gonna have to like get a grip or you're
not gonna be able to watch Lassie anymore.
(laughter)
But I mean, 'cause you, and I do appreciate
that the fans have that much emotionally invested
into the show, we really do appreciate that
because we have that much
emotionally invested into the show.
- Right - Right
- [Brian] That's right, and you know,
some of the, some of the, best TV shows in all of history
that are in sort of the category of When Calls the Heart
like Little House on the Prairie, that show dealt
with life and death issues a lot, right.
That wasn't just a onetime thing for them.
They had multiple things like that.
- And I think that's, when you do a series,
that is what happens.
It's a bit more of a journey versus
a two hour movie with a happy ending, right.
So, we are intending to have a happy ending,
but when you, when you're do a series you do have to have.
And again we're not going to kill off
any main characters again, but, I think you do have to have
the highs and the lows, I mean that's drama, so.
- And while we're acknowledging Hallmark channel.
I mean they really, they were very kind to us
by letting us tell this story in a way that felt
the most truthful for these characters
and this world that we've created.
I know it was a slight departure
from the tone of most things on Hallmark channel
and we were asking people to really take that ride with us.
But I'm so glad that they did, and as Lori said,
there's such a bright future in Hope Valley,
and we don't plan on continuing
to tell these kinds of stories.
- [Elizabeth] Ladies - We made this for you.
- All of us worked on a section.
- It's so beautiful
- We want you to know you're always wrapped in love.
- You're our family Elizabeth.
- You're my family too, and that is such a blessing.
- [Brian] So, Lori and Erin, this ones for you together.
Now that one chapter is closing of One Calls the Heart,
and we're opening up a new chapter starting,
turning the page and starting to write on a new page.
What is the Hearties community mean to you going forward?
- [Lori] Well, like Dan said like you said Brian,
we talk about it all the time,
like what an incredible fan base they are.
And I've been in the business for a really long time,
I've never come across a fan base like the Hearties.
And I've had fans through out my career,
but not quite like this, I mean.
Their devotion, their passion, it's uh,
I've never experienced anything like it.
So, that's why I think, when you know.
I finally just stopped reading comments last night
because the truth is...
- At what time?
- At two, at two in the morning I stopped finally.
At two am I stopped like.
But because, it was hard for us too.
We don't want to upset anyone or hurt anyone.
Like we care about them
and we don't want anyone to be upset.
And yes we knew people were going to be upset
and I think, you know, no matter how you slice it,
whatever story we might have told, I think on some level,
somebody would've been unhappy.
- [Brian] That's right.
And I think it's just in general
because a character is leaving the show.
So, and I think, you know people, change is hard.
Sometimes change is hard, so.
But the Hearties mean everything to us, truly.
- They are the show.
- [Brian] And you feel the same?
- I do, I feel the same.
And I feel so grateful and honored
that the Hearties have welcomed us into their living rooms,
into their bedrooms, into their classrooms.
Wherever their stealing a peak at When Calls the Heart.
And they've really made us feel like
important members of their family.
And, I don't know, the Hearties kind of feel like an
extended family for us as well.
- And in return we've tried
to make ourselves accessible to them too, you know.
- Have we missed a, a night,
we're always tweeting with them.
- You know, we, every Sunday night Erin and I get together
and we watch the show and we Tweet
and we interact with the fans, and, so.
You know, because they are important to us.
- [Brian] That's right.
So, you know, we definitely want, you know,
interact and have let them have access to us too.
- Yeah and it feels, I think we all feel this,
all of us, finally we can talk about this.
- Uh, I'm so relieved
- Oh it feels so good to talk about it.
We've been sitting on this, it's just, it's felt.
- I hate secrets.
- It was like a heavy burden.
It kind of felt like a heavy thing to carry round.
- Yes - Right
- It really did, so.
- [Brian] Right, and we all, sort of all of us
have gone through the same
sort of grieving process that the fans are now.
We've just had a longer period of time,
but we all have gone through those
stages of grief about this
- [Erin] Oh yeah.
- This change, but I think we're all at a great place now.
At least on this side.
We hope the Hearties will get there as well.
- Yeah
- [Brian] So Dan, thinking about the Hearties,
if you could say anything to them,
and you've probably already said this but,
if there's anything else you want to say to them
right now that would be great.
- So I think, I think I covered a lot of
how I feel about you guys.
When I was talking about you before,
and how grateful I am for you all.
I guess I just want to say it's going to be alright.
(laughter)
Don't worry, it's all good.
Keep watching the show, Hallmark is awesome,
When Calls the Heart is awesome.
- Thanks Dan - Thank you Dan
- That's it, you know, yeah, it's going to be okay.
- [Brian] And for all the wonderful things, Dan,
that you're going to do in your career going forward.
We know that you're gonna have a lot of success doing that.
And, Hearties, be watching for this guy, right.
- [Lori] Oh yeah, very.
Yes, you are very wonderful actor and you've, you've
- [Brian] Follow him to whatever the next thing is
because he's gonna love having you there
and he'll keep talking to you by the way too.
- Oh 100%, 100%
- [Brian] So Erin, we're gonna end on this question.
- Oh no, the pressures on, what is it?
- [Brian] Speaking of the baby bump
that you laid on us there last night.
- [Erin] There's no bump yet
- [Brian] No bump, well not last night but there,
there probably will be in the next few months.
- Probably will be.
- Tell us, boy or girl, what do you want?
- Oh no, oh this is so bad, Brian.
- That's a tricky one.
- I know what I want
- I mean I know what I want.
- Dan you don't get to weigh in on this.
(laughter) Please!
- [Brian] He already weighed in.
- I already did (laughter)
- Not real life
- Okay, am I allowed to answer this?
Am I allowed to answer this question?
- Why not put out what you want.
- [Brian] Well, just what you want, what you would like,
it doesn't mean it's gonna happen for ya.
- No, no, no, no.
- [Erin] Okay here's my answer.
I have assured the Hearties, I have assured the Hearties
on Social Media that I'm not reading a script today,
this is all from my heart, but from my heart
I cannot give you an answer other than to say,
I would be so happy with a boy or a girl for Elizabeth.
- [Lori] Yay! (Lori clapping)
And so would we, and so would our Hope Valley community.
- It's a blessing either way.
- Elizabeth, you're gonna have a baby.
(uplifting music)
- We were talking before the show
about what if it's a little Jaquoline
and she's a tomboy and would if twenty years from now
she joins the Mounties, how cool would that be right?
- Oooo, goodness.
- There's drama!
- See, so many stories to tell, so many stories left.
- [Brian] Keep it in the family, keep it in the family.
Well, thank you Hearties for joining us,
and all the fans of One Calls the Heart.
We're gonna, we have to bring this to a close
'cause, 'cause Facebook, we're over time
on our limit with Facebook, so.
- [Erin] Oh my - [Lori] Oh my goodness
- [Brian] Thank you so much for being with us
and for joining us for the Facebook live after show.
We've never done this before.
You know, maybe we'll even do this again sometime,
this is kind of.
- [Erin] That would be fun - [Lori] That would be lovely
- [Brian] But from the bottom of our hearts,
from the bottom of our hearts Hearties,
we want you to know that we love you,
you are the reason for the success of When Calls the Heart.
I hope you know that, we hope you know that.
And we don't take that for granted.
We all want to wish Dan, our friend Dan, godspeed on all
the exciting things coming for him in the future,
and we know we will be seeing lots of him on TV
and films in the days ahead.
It's been a joy and a blessing to work with you Dan,
it just really has.
And we hope these last five seasons
have been meaningful for you too.
Hope Valley has grown to be a place where,
where you all would like to visit as much as possible.
I think you all know that, right?
We also know that, you've been on
an emotional roller coaster these last, this last season.
And especially last few weeks, and we're closing one chapter
and starting a whole new chapter of hope,
faith, love, family, and community.
We trust you will want to continue that journey with us.
The plans for season six are exciting and epic,
and they're already underway.
Don't forget to watch Lori, Erin, and Dan
on the Home and Family show tomorrow, April 24th.
So until we meet again on the streets of Hope Valley,
very soon, goodbye and God bless.
- Thank you papa Hearty.
- Oh okay (laughter)
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