So Cat, you come from where?
Oh Lunenburg Nova Scotia Canada
so you've got a history of obviously a long nautical history in that part of the world and
Oh my God yeah, it's a Unesco world heritage site it goes back to the 1600s
be a lot of a lot of ropemaker's but also a lot of smithing going on and there's still a
lot of knot knotters around
what do you call them? Knotters?
theres lots of knotty people in Lunenburg
Nutty knotters
There you go. That was dinner. That was lovely.
so here we are in Georgetown and we've just finished
What did we finish?
Fish Cakes
Caught by Zaya
And we didnt film any of it but thats whats left
It was pretty good.
Obviously we couldnt stand the sight of it so we had to eat it
That was fish 2 of 3 which was caught in a 2 day period.
Unbelievable
We caught 4 but we let one go
We were luckyfishing in the Bahamas
you are beautifully lit there Cat
with the LED lights
Is it like a halo?
yeah
My angel
Its like theres a shaft of light
what I was thinking about today when we were gonna do the interview attached to James
I really had to do some soul-searching
it's like a romantic idea to leave the land and go sail the seas
and do all this kind of stuff but what you're leaving behind is big
because everything that you did all of your life to become who you are today is
formed by all that stuff that you are actually leaving behind so you have to
redesign yourself to be able to fit on to this plane right
on the ocean
and one of the things that I was concerned about was, wait a minute I'm an artist I'm a
jewelry maker I'm a diner owner I do all these things and that's who I am
so who do I become now this is getting real it's the other side right so one of
my biggest concerns was how do I maintain who I am and be on a boat which
is basically my living room size without the walls right and there's no running
water you can't put your hands under the water at the same time you have to pump
and then pump you you know it's like there's so many different things and the
boat never stops moving so there's all these like little idiosyncrasies about
living on a boat that people might not think about.
James, a foot pump will finish that
Yeah, yeah. So you could put a foot pump in
Mr FixIt right here!
Thats a good solution because alot of people forget that
ZAYA: Not just that. There's many others!
[LAUGHTER]
These are things that people dont think of, right?
Your food choices have to change because now you have to eat dried or canned or caught
or you know whatever so your whole persona
sure you give up a lot
but I understand that what you're gaining is may not be better but it's different
it's more simple and unless you get on the land you don't actually get like to
walk very far as everything is short distances so one of the other things I
was concerned about is staying fit right like so what can you do I can bring my
yoga mat I can you know get on shore and walk that you know as long as you get
off the boat once in a while and do that kind of stuff and then the other thing too is
like I said I do acrylic and watercolor and jewelry making mmm so now I have to
redesign that whole thing instead of canvases on frames I can get canvas
roll-ups right and cut them to size and all that stuff so there's gonna be a lot
of mm-hmm a lot of alterations in my life
so but like we did today we made jewelry you know I do jewelry,
its all doable as long as I thought I was gonna be bored out of my mind right so
but when I would disappear downstairs I wasn't always sleeping I was processing
right I just needed to get away from you guys in the boat and just process
everything sure so in the in the big picture I think it's very doable but you
can't go in with a romantic idea of boating and you know and sailing away into the sunset
It comes at a cost
And that is not often talked about but in order to chase
your dream you do have to give up stuff you know yeah
how can this be a dream if I have to sacrifice you know exactly and that's but you also have to
redesign your priorities so yeah I'd like totally redesign your priorities in
life like stuff I know and then you know what I I hear it all the time and I know
that you're getting rid of stuff but me being my zodiac sign is cancer I'm all
about home yeah it's all about everything has an emotional attachment
to it so for me to leave my home my safe spot my only spot in life where it's
mine and I feel secure and stepping on to a
raft yeah, seriously, with a beautiful, what ever this is called?
Pod, canopy, tent !
I know.. that is huge. I'm vulnerable to
the earth I'm vulnerable to the world I'm vulnerable to the elements like I
can't just hide it somewhere and feel safe now now I have to find a different
safety net right so this is like huge it's a huge emotional journey and I'm
willing to make the journey but I'm fighting it a little bit along the way
trying to find little
replacements right.
I grew up on the water I grew up with motor boats I grew up sleeping on the
dock because I wanted to be near the water when my grandpa couldn't find me
in the morning it's sleeping in my bed he would walk
down to the dock and there I was sleeping with my pillow and my blanket
in the bottom of the little aluminum fishing boat so I've always wanted to be
on the water and live on the water it's just that I lost sight of it through all
those years of raising kids and you know business all that kind of stuff so this
to me is like a dream come true in a way my childhood dream yeah exactly yeah but
I didn't realize the steps that I would need to mature into in order to get to
this spot and James has helped me with his patience and dreams like he always
throws his dreams out there and this is what I'm gonna do this is gonna happen
and so I kind of got caught up in that for a little while
and then I started to reject it too right because I didn't want to leave the
land I didn't want to leave all my secure situations and friends I have to leave
all my friends behind so what happens when somebody dies so I'm very close to
but I can't be there so these are all the emotional journeys in my head right
now that I'm trying to deal with and then there's my kids but what if
something happens to my kids
Yes, major, major shift
Huge, huge.
So, it's pretty big
but, being on the boat this week
Can I ask the question
apart from obviously an affection for James, what is it within you
you that makes you want to take this leap
well I've always been a love, peace and granola bar girl
a little bit hippie a little bit Skippy
but I'm I've traveled all around the world and like I've taught English in
Peru mm-hmm Oh every state so many countries I've been to
but it's all on land and yet my being a zodiac cancer I'm all about
water so link was the water so my thing is I
would love to see all these these countries from from a different travel
perspective right so the thing I was talking with James to earlier is that
sure it's great to be on a boat but I don't just want to see what the water
looks like in these countries I want to see what the country is right so you
just have to remember to get off the boat once in a while go meet the people
cuz I'm a people person and I don't know it's just yeah it's just traveling on
water but the option to step on lands and the other glory of this thing yes
today yes you can choose whether you know you're gonna be with other people
yeah on land you just surrounded by people all the time sometimes we just
get a little bit we need our space right here so this is great you get to have
your space yeah and choose but you also can't escape each other you're all on the same damn raft
Well I guess you can take that to the next level and say
when you are a couple there is still that conflict and
so as long as each one respects the other person's needs and I just need a half an hour by myself yeah
without your face
Night watch
Night watch [Laughter]
Oh no, maybe more than that
Your hull, my hull
maybe double watch
you cant lose your individuality simply because you have no choice except be with this person on this raft
but the other thing too I was concerned about with this whole boat
thing is recycling because I really would like to live in harm ony with, you know
Waste
No. I want to live in harmony with nature yeah yeah so so I've been
going through Zaya's book on how to live on a boat and all that stuff, what do you do how do you reduce the stuff that you have to
recycle or you know throwing food overboard, that's totally acceptable yeah what do
you do with the other stuff right
it's all about buying bulk taking your containers with you to the store to have
them fill them up you know all that kind of stuff so that's one of my major goals
will be to how to reduce as much as possible you know so so what you bring
on the boat the less you have to worry about getting rid of I think that's that's
part of where it starts yeah for some land reduce your waste like we've been
here and what? one bag of garbage in a week for the board's yeah yeah that's true as
a matter of fact you know if I'm too bad in the waste department but it still should be separated
and it still should be recycled, but good luck with that.
Thats a function of what's available in the country you go to
It's pretty dire actually. The lack of..
When we were sitting in Nassau, just as an example. Every morning we'd see the cruise ships. And then the tour boats
come and visit them for the day trips to go out to dolphin island or
wherever and then 30 minutes after the tour boats had zoomed up the channel,
all the polystyrene cups would come floating back past the
boat and you think come on like with all the money pouring into Nassau, surely
you can just,
Did you pick up some?
Well, no. We were on anchor honey. We are not going to go chasing polystyrene cups around Nassau Harbour.
And your right. They've gotta have a bigger picture.
And there we are talking about celebrities spending $25,000
a night staying in the room and you're watching polystyrene cups drifting down...
every day.
Crazy. Yeah. There is something wrong.
right you can see all the garbage there. Its atrocious. And that's small
compared to some beaches around the world. Its ridiculous.
I think it's very young one yeah probably because there's no much meat in
But you got plenty of milk right? Yeah.
All the electrolytes from coconut milk. Wow. Totally hydrating
Cats a nutritionist
So we are learning all about the benefits of coconut milk coconut oil
I think she is going to build a coconut raft
I am.
And go sailing.
Just don't eat your raft.
But its the letting go thing. It stops a lot of people
yeah they're stuck in a rut in there and people go in there those are the people
go that's crazy or weird because they can't see that's for the big picture to
leave some room in the anchorage's that's right yeah exactly
you know but Catherine and I mentioned this idea she's the only
person I think identify it right away she said I you know I see and I guess
she's the only god that's my dream to you and I go yeah, really? cool.
I found the right girl finally.
Yeah. Its great when you find someone equally delusional. [LAUGHTER]
She had to get some things sorted out, so I took a step back, I can wait for that,
heres this chance. Let's go and look at this to see
So, so, can I turn this back on Cat now?
You've heard James, you've suffered, James and I, particularly, talking about this boat for a week
and it's a big step because James has brought you not on to have just a
sailing boat for the first time in the Bahamas sailing for the first time this
environment living on the hook for a week
yeah you know none of the amenities yep you know she's a pretty spartan boat
can you see yourself on it?
Well. When I first saw a cat in the Halifax Harbour
I was like look at all that plastic because I'm all about wood I had a
wooden boat right and it was all about it oh my god I hate plastic I don't buy
plastic utensils I don't buy anything plastic so my whole brain went I don't
think so no way I'm not going to contribute to this plastic world right
and I was a monohull person it's just who I am
so when I
Who you were, you were, you were
We haven't had any Mal de Mer, we haven't had any rock'n'roll downwind.
come on you gotta be becoming a Cat convert as well ?
But, and I really wasn't convinced at all about a cat at all regardless of the style
They are simply not as pretty as monohulls from an artists point of view, lets face it
yeah, there's definitely nothing romantic about a catamaran. All the beautiful sailing pictures are of monos right yeah so when I
came down here I was a little bit cold inside because I didn't know what to
expect but the more that we travelled this week on the cat it was like yeah
okay I can see for long-distance travel and all around the world all that kind
of stuff the balance of the boat the setup of the boat the unique simplicity
right but you've got everything you need but it's very simple
mm-hmm is simply presented and it's simply organized so and just you know
being able to get into like little shallower areas close to the beach and
everything that was like yes I've been won over as far as this is what the
dream is to be on the water sailing for great distances so for this instance I
think it's the best choice ever. And then the thing that won me over completely to
the Wharram thing is that this is wood it's painted wood but it's wood yeah
sure so I feel better about that it feels more earthy because it is made out
of wood yeah and you can do more alterations to whatever you want so yeah
I see a lot of good qualities about this and this is after, I wouldn't have got to
this choice as quickly as James did just cuz I'm a die-hard wood person and mono
But, like I said now being on here I can see I can see the benefit of this style of boat
plus this layout of the boat is pretty amazing
You wait until you get to work on one.
then you get to work with wood that's right
you know and it's actually another with you with you working with your hands yes
wooden all the maintenance and the bugbear, there's actually an upside to that
really satisfying you know because you have a project can you fix it and you
look at it and you go hey I did that and it works and you know I don't have to do it
again for another five or six years, or ten years or whatever.
But I've enjoyed the whole trip um but like I said I came in not with completely open-minded
I had preconceived desires in my head and not all of those were met just
because I was stuck in the mono hull right?, but I can definitely see that I've been
swayed, educatedly, over to a cat and over to this particular style of craft
Wow. Thats awesome to hear that.
because you and Zaya have been busy while we've been doing the sailing so you've
been creating these little bits of craft work yeah while we've been preoccupied
car yeah well the one thing about doing this is that even though I have a diner
and I saw my stuff in my diner yeah I can now give up the diner but not give
up the craft because I can send my completed works to another business in
Lunenburg but even that even if that wasn't going to be the case just to
maintain a part of that need to create which is what I do in the diner right
create food and create jewelry I create paintings that create everything I need
to create right so this will be a really good outlet and you know you can train
it on the islands you can do whatever the creative outlet I think we all crave
whether we realize it or not, whether we've found what our outlet is
yeah that's awesome that you can take your talent and bring it onto a boat its
transportable yeah and it's also really linked to the whole lifestyle like
scrimshaw right? like the old guys, the crews on the whaleboats, they used to get whatever material they had, they had whalebone right?
know these these a sharp the end of their knife to carve like very ornate
pictures in pieces of whale bone and stuff so why is that not possible in this situation
as a handcraft, which is a wonderful thing to buy yeah that's actually been made by a person you've met
and feel like you know
right. well look when we went to
the island the other day right I wanted something made by somebody on
the island it was a $5 little tiny you know yeah bracelet but it was like I'm
so proud of that because I met the person who made it. It's hand done not
some machine and you know North America it was so ...
Well that's brilliant what a good
wrap up and thank you very much to both of you for what's been a wonderful week.
It has been a great week.
It's been a two-way street this week we've learned a lot
from you and hopefully, well it sounds like you're gonna take away a bit
from this experience I brought my notebook.
excited to hear what happens next in the next chapter of SV 'X'
yeah whatever it might be. But it's been a very emotional week for me I've kept
it away from you guys
but sometimes I go down there and cry.
Yes. That's like me. I keep it away from everybody.
I'm always balling in my cabin I can tell you.
Look, now the clouds behind all have a silver lining.
That's too pretty.
[bell clangs gently nearby]
and what are these shackles for dare I ask?
I make bracelets, and I use the shackles as the
and then I do it like port in the starboard
In case you are lost
I love that , that knot thats beautiful. Yeah, the Bluenose II was built and lives there
One of the most famous sailing ships of all time.
Yeah, its on our dime
And fairly quick too.
17 knots under sail
Why is it a world, UNESCO,
For the architecture of the city. Its a great little town actually.
So, why am I leaving it?
Because the winters are pretty miserable.
well it's good you guys got a magic background
coming from the part of the world you do
Yeah, its pretty cool
It's no surprise to find you in the Bahamas mind you, at this time of the year
March.
I love sailing and I love Nova Scotia and I love traditional boats but I'm getting a little tired of winter
This is a much better option.
So, that is the finished product. One keychain. You did that in less than 30 minutes 15 feet of twine. And it
floats. Handmade. And in Nova Scotia that would retail for?
I sell them in my diner for $20
And in the Bahamas? a couple of fish ...
There you go.
Or a dry coconut.
I tell you what. A bloody dried coconut. 30 minutes for dry coconut that would be a bargain!
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