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U.S. Officials Alarmed At What Experts Just Discovered North Korea Could Do To America In 1 Year
there are worries about what North Korea could do with a nuclear weapon of course
one of them sounds like science fiction but many people say the threat is real
tonight correspondent Doug mackelway looks at both sides of the EMP debate
today the old Duck and Cover films from Cold War days seem campy and quaint to
many a nuclear blast and its resultant electromagnetic pulse or EMP seems so
unimaginable so unlikely that you worry about it and fewer still take any
precautions it's not real and it's something out of a James Bond movie the
general consensus is that it's not a real threat it's not imminent by any
stretch of the imagination tell that to dr. Peter Vincent Prai who heads
Congress's EMP Commission we have information for example the data from
actual high altitude nuclear detonations that were conducted by us and the
Russians back in the 1961-62 type timeframe that not did things like knock
the lights out in Hawaii an EMP is a short burst of
electromagnetic energy that all nuclear explosions produce to varying degrees a
large EMP triggered over the United States from an orbiting nuke at the
right altitude could fry the circuitry of cellphones rendering electronic
banking automobile computers railways air traffic control and airplanes
themselves useless food would rot in refrigerators and in farm fields with no
means of transporting Agri products to population centers in the following
weeks and months a truly mad max' world would evolve
dr. Prai believes that naivete about EMP pervades the Western democracies where
nukes are kept mostly out of sight and out of mind but for totalitarian and
authoritarian stages in the case of Iran and possibly North Korea news of nuclear
weapons is not only thinkable but in their open source military doctrine you
know they've written for years about being able to win a nuclear war that you
can fight a nuclear war adding to EMP worries North Korea's
recent successful test of a solid-fuel ballistic missile the solid fuel needs
less preparation meaning warning time for those targeted in
addition North Korea also has at least two observation satellites that orbit
over the u.s. at an altitude ideal for an EMP attack for years Congress has
struggled with many bills designed to harden the nation's electric grid
against an EMP attack but none have made it out of committee special interests
often intervened fearful of the cost of upgrades when the effects of an EMP
attack are still being disputed right Doug thank you
all right North Korea claiming its hydrogen bomb is five times more
powerful than the one dropped on Nagasaki that helped end World War two
joining us now to break down the differences and their threats is
director of defense studies at the Center for national interest Harry
because you pronounced informa sir because I have has the oddest I want to
get it right you know I want to do well by your you're an expert you deserve
that respect Harry if you would give us a sense do you think this was a hydrogen
bomb and if so was it tell us well you know Pete it's tough to tell if this is
a hydrogen bomb or not my own sources at the Pentagon which I actually wrote a
piece for Fox opinion just a couple weeks ago on this they were thinking
actually the North Koreans were anywhere from 6 to 18 months away when it came to
a hydrogen bomb so what we might be actually seeing late last night is that
the North Koreans could be testing sort of the conceptual design of a hydrogen
bomb and keep in mind for a hydrogen bomb we're usually talking in the
millions of tons of TNT the test that was last night was a hundred kilotons or
roughly a hundred thousand tons of TNT so that would be a very small hydrogen
bomb but I think the intent is very clear the North Koreans are rapidly
building up their nuclear weapons capabilities we have to be concerned and
I think the president is going to take some bold actions the graphic on your
screen right now shows how much larger this test was last night 120 kilotons
than even just the previous one a year ago ten kilotons so no matter what David
they've advanced their technology substantially do you believe they have
the ability yet to couple it with an ICBM a missile that could reach us well
that's the trick here usually a hydrogen bomb to take that design and basically
scale it down and make it small enough to put it on the nose cone of a warhead
and then be able to deliver that on a target thousands of miles away that's a
hard thing to do so where I would argue here P is the North Koreans are probably
at the very start of this design process for a hydrogen bomb but I still think
the North Koreans have the capability to still take a standard atomic bomb and
hit the United States that's just dangerous in and of itself Harry we're
talking about sanctions toughen tougher on China trying to use all the
diplomatic and economic leverage that we can but you're saying there may be at
the start of the process of getting be could have in their mind the ultimate
weapon wouldn't if we were to take pre-emptive military action in any size
or scope would now not be a better time than waiting until they are further down
the process or potentially habbit here's the problem with military action options
let's face it North Korea is the land of lousy options
the challenge is this if we launched a tremendous military strike on North
Korea first of all it would take us a couple weeks to get that together
the North Koreans would see that coming probably strike first but even if we're
able to do that let's suppose the North Koreans have I don't know 30 nuclear
weapons and we get 28 of them that still would leave to nuclear weapons left I
guarantee you Kim jong-un is gonna fire one of those at Seoul Tokyo or Los
Angeles that's why a military option at this point unless the North Koreans
attack us first is not a good one you got it if you do it you got to do it all
in and doing it doing so is a pretty difficult proposition Harry thanks a lot
for joining us this morning Korea now a nuclear war could break out at any
moment it's claiming the u.s. is moving the needle toward a nuclear crisis quote
unless the hostile policy and the nuclear threat of the u.s. is thoroughly
eradicated we will never put our nuclear weapons and ballistic rockets on the
Rockets rather on the negotiation table under any circumstance now these latest
threats as Vice President Mike Pence says the u.s. is looking for a peaceful
resolution to be clear the United States of America will continue to bring the
full range of American power to bear on the regime in Pyongyang as we hope to
achieve through diplomatic and economic means a peaceable solution and the
achievement of the long-sought goal of a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula john
bolton for me as ambassador the UN senior fellow American Enterprise
Institute Ernie Fox News contributor and Sarah good morning to on you
so the rhetorics hot does it look a facts
this is propaganda from the North Koreans they're trying to intimidate
those Americans who are capable of being intimidated and unfortunately there are
a large number of them the threat in the region is North Korea's nuclear weapons
program that's what we've been grappling with unsuccessfully for 25 years and the
idea that somehow we're responsible for it really is ludicrous except to those
who buy that kind of North Korean pop propaganda now you used to work at the
UN you know this stuff very well apparently the prepared marks had that
comment nuclear war may break out at any moment but it was not read out loud what
do you make of that well you know they they're very good at at getting what
they want out without actually having it on the record that way so that this is
the very fact we're talking about it shows that they're successful I think
what it means for American policy though we've just got to keep our eye on the
ball they are definitely getting close to the
capacity to hit targets all over the continental United States they said the
other day though they wouldn't negotiate until they already had that capability
so time is running out it has been running out and it's landed in the Trump
administration's lap but nobody should be under any illusions that after 25
years in getting this close to the finish line North Korea is going to be
talked out of its nuclear weapons program that is not going to have not
gonna happen right I think the only the only
diplomatic possibility here is with China to put either enough pressure on
the regime in North Korea that it collapses or to acknowledge we need to
reunite the two Koreas otherwise the options look a lot grimmer and I think
we have to acknowledge that otherwise look there's an easy answer here we can
just stop all this and let North Korea get nuclear weapons and live with it
that's what Susan Rice the national security and the Obama administration
wants to do mistake of take care that last week said it's developing a pretty
good nuclear reentry vehicle so the program continues to advance as you
point out there they think we want to take their leader out our leader goes
there in November president Trump will visit South Korea he may go to the DMZ
how significant should we view that trip sir well this trip to Asia is
very significant in a number of respects he'll be in Japan South Korea than China
than Southeast Asia I definitely think it's important for the president to go
to South Korea I know he's been there before I don't know if he's been to the
Demilitarized Zone it's something that which every American could see and
confront the North Koreans but I think this is very important to show them that
we are determined as the president said in his speech to the United Nations a
few weeks ago that as far as North Korea goes the nuclearization is the only way
forward meaning they are not left with nuclear weapons period thank you sir we
will talk again about this too
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