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all right we'll know soon not what the president wants to do about this
replacing Anthony Kennedy on the Supreme Court here now much of this was
telegraphed it was just a matter of when we were told not even if but again as we
indicated the Supreme Court justice indicated the president today you want
to stop by talk to the president tell him in person that he wanted to step
down and now the choices the president has a list he's going to use that list
now on that list so happens to be a the Utah Senator Mike Lee I want to get the
read on that from Kentucky Senator Rand Paul what he makes of that one Center on
the list senator and your colleague Mike Lee how do you feel about that I think
it'd be a great pick but I think I'd hate to lose him in the Senate you know
he and I are allies on so many things constitutional war powers criminal you
know justice reform personal privacy all of these issues Mike Lee has been right
there with me so I'd hate to lose him from the Senate but he's a very
thoughtful guy well-read well-spoken and knows the law better than anybody that
I've ever met probably so he'd be a great pick but I'd be of divided
loyalties because I think we really need him in the Senate where we're often
outnumbered by people who don't really seem to give a darn at all about the
Constitution well that's high praise from you Senator obviously would be a
little convoluted too because then he would have to leave the Senate and then
obviously the governor of that state with a point of replacement that could
be confusing but do you think that there's any anyone on that list that
could surprise folks that the because some people look back for to be on the
conservative side say you know we've been disappointed before they use the
Souter example and others even Anthony Kennedy and surprised people with you
know how he could go from conservative to a swing vote
albeit an important vote but what do you make of it I don't know everybody on the
list but I do know that guy who was at the top of the list Neel Gorsuch is
amazing I just read his opinion in the carpenter case is the case about whether
the government can track your location forever all of the time without a war
and his was the only dissent that said when you give your records to a third
party a telephone company or a bank horses was the only one that says the
fourth amendment digital still should apply completely and always that you
still have a privacy or a property ownership in information when you let
somebody hold it you haven't given up an expectation of privacy and Gorsuch
opinion was better than anybody else's on the court so you're talking to a
guy's a big fan of course such on the Fourth Amendment and I think on property
and on a lot of other issues he's going to probably end up being the most
libertarian justice we have so if anybody else's in the mode of Neal
Gorsuch I'm all for them you know senators some of the recent decisions
that have been close ones at 5-4 rulings you know have prompted some to say we
need a more decisive court one more conservative vote in this case could
potentially make 5-4 ruling 6-3 rulings the other side laments that process
though and that hints that this is going to be a very very divisive summer into
the fall what do you think you know I if I had to predict I think Supreme Court
vote no matter who president Trump picks will be divided along party lines
because the Democrats have dug in and I don't think they're willing to look at
each individual person that is nominated they're so angry they're not talking
about violence there are people in the Capitol pushing people yelling kidnapper
I mean it's really gotten kind of out of hand you have members of comrade of
Congress fomenting this kind of stuff so no I think they're gonna dig their heels
in and just yell and scream and vote against anybody president Trump picks
but you know they're about eight states where Democrats are running for the US
Senate where President Trump won by between 20 and 40 points and so if they
want to yell and scream and say they hate everything about the Trump and
they're not going to do anything and not listen to anything Republicans have to
say their voters might think otherwise in November because I think they're
tired of Democrats making everything so partisan frankly so this other view that
oh what's the rush and hear that from any of the left
what there is no need to rush and they use that and Chuck Shumer I believe use
that if I'm paraphrasing a senator that you know Mitch McConnell had used that
argument in holding off on a Barack Obama appointment for the Supreme Court
position that was ultimately filled by judge gorgeous that they're the same
applies here so they wonder about I would say it's a
completely different situation when Senator McConnell said we need to wait
till after the election it was a presidential election the president gets
to pick Supreme Court so you can see how when you're in the middle of deciding
that the president is you probably also shouldn't at the very last minute of a
presidency when that president's not running have them pick you can see how
the election might really be important to decide who the next presidents going
to be we're not going through a presidential election we're just going
through a congressional election so no I think we should proceed forthwith and
like I say if President Trump nominates somebody half as good or nearly as good
as Neil Gorsuch I'll be very happy because there is another thought here
whatever happens in the house senator there's a good likelihood at least in
the Senate Republicans could pick up seats way too early to say and you're
not gotten in this before but the math might improve or the odds of getting a
pick approved right now it's as close as you can get yeah no I think that it's
very likely that the Republicans keep their majority in the Senate or actually
maybe expand that authority or a majority I think in the house it's going
to be historic but typically throughout history when a president wins in one
party the other party often takes over 30 seats or more in the house I think
it's looking less likely than that because the Democrats problem is there
now the party of sort of special sort of small percentage sort of victim groups
spread out through society but they've sort of lost track of being for the
working man and I think just the general working man who's not part of some sort
of special class or a special group victim group who just wants a good job
is starting to see gosh the economy is picking up wages are picking up this may
be the most rapid growth we've seen in a decade or more
I think we're gonna hit four percent GDP growth I think the enthusiasm I feel I
think we could hit five percent GDP growth if we could just sort of calm the
waters on the trade front but if we can get beyond this trade war and it doesn't
escalate I think the tax return is just starting to get into the economy and I
really think you're gonna see some amazing economic growth
you mentioned the economic growth on the wind that's been at the back certainly
the president course we had a market trip up today as we've had nine of the
last 11 trading day so I don't want to get too overly obsessed with that but is
your concern I'm a senator that a chief justice should should be a strict
constitutionalists in other words just following what our forefathers intended
and not trying to reinterpret that or add to that because by that definition a
lot of modern-day decisions were apart from that and and that even so-called
conservative just now swing vote justices have the herb from that what
does a Rand Paul want to see out of the Supreme Court pick someone who reads the
Constitution as it was intended is aware of the original intent of the the
framers of the Constitution and understands basically if they wanted a
very small government it did very little in the marketplace and actually had a
very modest and moderate foreign policy that made it difficult to go to war we
only went to war when Congress voted on it so a constitution that was not only
thought it was important to protect privacy but you know John Adams said
that James Otis's arguments against general warrants or writs of assistance
he said it was the spark that led to the revolution so Fourth Amendment privacy
issues are very big for those of us who believe in the original interpretation
of the Constitution all I can say that don't know everyone on the list but I do
think that Neal corsets who is at the top of the list has turned out to be a
great justice and if we can get any more similar to Neal Wars which I'll be
exceedingly happy Senator Rand Paul very good seeing you thank you very much
thank you all right then there is the religious
issue involved here the right to life issue involved here roe v-- wade and so
much here what's at stake with evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats
after this
alright you could mark it consistently and like clockwork every time it's
Supreme Court position opens up the first issue that comes to mind is roe
v-- wade right to life the whole abortion issue comes back and what role
and what thoughts that particular justice has or potential justice has on
these matters it's an important matter that's next guest the president CEO of
the Family Leader Bob Vander Plaats but they're gonna have you how crucial is
that issue to you I mean I above others with others among others what it's the
cornerstone of all their issues Neil I think this is an opportunity to restore
a culture of life in this country that honors God and blesses people we
definitely see this as an answer to prayer I think it also marks that this
might be the most consequential election 2016 at least in my lifetime the one
versus Hillary and president Trump because of Gorsuch is a standard we'd
like to see another Gorsuch on that court now you might be surprised those
on the Left feel a little differently and they have even ERDs that this be put
off on how do you feel about that well I don't think it should be put off and
we're thrilled to have our own senator Iowa's u.s. senator being chaired the
Judiciary Committee chuck Grassley he's the one who actually pushed it back
until we had the presidential election but this isn't a presidential election
we do at President Trump he's going to appoint the next Supreme Court justice
nominee and I believe this Senate is going to confirm his desire even if it
got pushed off me I think we're gonna do is you see a rallying of the base when
they thought the base on the right was not going to be energized this time
that's the base of the race going to be very energized they see what's at stake
as you mentioned the culture of life is at stake you know you think about it -
they might be careful what they wish for right because there's a possibility that
if they waited the number of Republicans in the Senate could actually increase
regardless what happens in the house and so that's where all the action will be
on this appointment but having said that there is a sense that do we just reverse
row v Wade but what do we do going for what would be your preference going
forward well in Iowa we took a major step this past legislative session we
passed heartbeat legislation signed by Governor Reynolds that whole legislation
was aimed and purposed to take down roe v wade because nil you understand the
crux of the roe v wade argument was if we could ever determine that that baby
was a person that whole case collapses a heartbeat does that we knew the courts
were going to be changing we didn't know candy was gonna be retiring but we knew
of Gorsuch there and if Kennedy did retire or Ginsburg stepped off the court
we knew Trump was going to be a constitutional conservative president
who would appoint constitutional conservative judges and we have a chance
to take down roe v wade this is a historic moment in the pro-life
community today let me then go on to gay marriage Bob there there's a sense that
that is now settled law and that the Supreme Court has settled it not once
but twice technically three times do you agree with that no I don't agree with it
I think God's designed for marriage and family we will revert back to that I
think the reason you're seeing Senator Schumer and others being so upset about
what's taken place today everything that they've run through and got passed has
been through the courts it hasn't been through the people hasn't
been through the elected office holders and now the courts are changing and so
we think marriage needs to be debated again and I think we think we use the
people should be decided reverted back do you mean that marriage it can only be
accepted between a man and a woman yeah I do believe that absolutely those
marriages that we've seen same-sex marriages that we'd seen would it be
your view then Bob that that this new configured Supreme Court down the road
assuming it's more conservative should recognize that as well and upend all of
these gay marriages well I think what we should do as a culture is return back to
the way God designed and intended it and that is between a man and
woman those are the parameters with that one that would be very big news to a
number of gays and those who welcome these three decisions technically three
that has now seen marriage in that expanded light you do not and you don't
think we should no I don't think we should and I I think we're going to
continue to have this conversation as a country but we're do it in the right
process and that's why I think what you saw with your previous guests Rand Paul
wanting a constitutional conservative Supreme Court justice who understands
it's not their job to make law and it's not their job to rewrite the
Constitution a constitutional amendment is done by we the people not by five
Supreme Court justices so I think there's going to be a lot of issues up
for debate but in large part this is a very exciting day for those who believe
in the fabric of the Constitution today Bob Vander Plaats the CEO the Family
Leader thank you very good seeing you good seeing you too thank you new well
right he was a Democratic vice-presidential candidate an
independent United States Senator if it being a Democratic senator the prominent
leader on this whole issue that's about to come up to his old colleagues in the
United States Senate what does Joe Lieberman make of what the good Reverend
just said of what Ron Paul has been saying and what everyone seems to be
saying in between about a royal a battle to come of course from Rand Paul and
others
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