>>ANNOUNCER: TODAY ON
THE JOHN ANKERBERG SHOW:
NORTH KOREA THREATENS NUCLEAR
STRIKES ON THE UNITED STATES,
IRAN CONTINUES TO THREATEN
ISRAEL, RUSSIA CONTINUES TO
EXERT ITS POWER IN THE MIDDLE
EAST, AND EUROPEAN STATES
STRUGGLE WITH ISLAMIC TERRORISM
INSIDE THEIR BORDERS.
THE GOD OF THE BIBLE HAS SPOKEN
ABOUT EVENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN
WHEN THE WORLD ENTERS THE LAST
DAYS. DO THE EVENTS WE ARE
SEEING AMONG THE NATIONS TODAY
RELATE TO WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
WILL HAPPEN IN THE LAST DAYS?
MY GUEST TODAY IS NEWS
JOURNALIST DR. JIMMY DEYOUNG
WHO HAS REPORTED FROM JERUSALEM
SINCE 1991 AND INTERVIEWED
EVERY ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER
OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS.
WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN US.
>>JOHN ANKERBERG: WELCOME TO
OUR PROGRAM.
I'M JOHN ANKERBERG.
THANKS FOR JOINING ME.
WE HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM FOR YOU
TODAY. MY GUEST IS JOURNALIST
AND PROPHECY SCHOLAR JIMMY
DEYOUNG WHO SPENDS MOST
OF EVERY YEAR IN ISRAEL.
AND HE'S COMING TODAY TO REPORT
TO US ABOUT WORLD EVENTS.
WE COULD CALL THIS PROGRAM,
"WORLD EVENTS AND BIBLICAL
PROPHECY." BUT I WANT TO START
OUT WITH A QUESTION TO YOU.
AND IT HAS TO DO WITH,
THERE ARE SIX COUNTRIES THAT
HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON, OKAY?
IN FACT, THEY'VE GOT TWO THINGS
IN COMMON. AND I'M GOING TO
ASK YOU WHAT YOU THINK THOSE
TWO THINGS ARE THAT THEY HAVE
IN COMMON? WHAT ARE THE SIX
COUNTRIES FIRST OF ALL?
THE COUNTRIES ARE RUSSIA, IRAN,
TURKEY, LIBYA, SUDAN AND
ISRAEL. NOW, WHAT ARE THE TWO
THINGS THAT THOSE SIX COUNTRIES
HAVE IN COMMON?
NUMBER ONE, THESE COUNTRIES ARE
IN THE NEWS ALMOST EVERY DAY,
OKAY? I MEAN, YOU CAN'T READ
A NEWSPAPER WHERE YOU CAN'T
FIND SOMETHING ABOUT
THESE COUNTRIES EVERY DAY NOW.
NUMBER TWO IS SOMETHING
YOU MAY NOT KNOW.
ALL SIX OF THESE NATIONS
SHOW UP IN ONE CHAPTER OF
THE BIBLE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
THE PROPHET EZEKIEL,
IN CHAPTER 38, NAMES ALL SIX
OF THESE NATIONS AND SAYS
SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN
AMONG THEM. PROPHECY SCHOLARS
CALL THIS "THE EZEKIEL 38 WAR".
AND TODAY I WANT TO LOOK AT
THIS PASSAGE AND I WANT TO
LOOK AT IT IN A COUPLE WAYS.
ONE IS, IF THIS IS WHAT GOD
TOLD EZEKIEL, AND WE CAN SEE
SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE
DEPICTED IN THIS CHAPTER THAT
JIMMY IS GOING TO UNFOLD FOR US
IN A MOMENT, THEN WHAT DOES IT
MEAN TO US? HOW CLOSE DOES THIS
PUT US TO THE MAJOR EVENTS OF
BIBLICAL PROPHECY SUCH AS
THE RAPTURE, THE TRIBULATION
AND THE SECOND COMING?
WHAT DOES THIS TELL US,
ALRIGHT? AND SO, JIMMY,
NOW LET'S GO TO EZEKIEL 38.
AND I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL
SHOW THE PEOPLE FROM THE BIBLE
WHAT SCRIPTURE IS SAYING.
AND OF COURSE EZEKIEL WROTE
THIS 2600 YEARS AGO.
SO WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS AND
THE PEOPLE IN GROUPS THAT WERE
ON THERE, AND THE NATIONS THAT
WERE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT DAY
2600 YEARS AGO, THE TERRITORY
IS THE SAME BUT THE NAMES HAVE
CHANGED DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS.
IF WE TAKE THAT SAME
GEOGRAPHICAL AREA THAT HE'S
TALKING ABOUT AND THE NATIONS
THAT ARE THERE TODAY, I WANT
TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
ACCORDING TO EZEKIEL.
TAKE US TO EZEKIEL 38.
>>JIMMY DEYOUNG: JOHN, I THINK
THE KEY PHRASE THAT YOU JUST
MENTIONED WAS, WHO WERE
THESE NATIONS IN THE TIME THAT
EZEKIEL WROTE THE BOOK?
THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
HERMENEUTICAL PRINCIPLE.
IN OTHER WORDS, HERMENEUTICS,
THE SCIENCE OF INTERPRETING
SCRIPTURE, MEANS THAT YOU HAVE
TO LOOK AT IT WITH
SPECIAL PRINCIPLES IN MIND.
AND ONE OF THOSE PRINCIPLES:
THE LOCATIONS MENTIONED IN
THE BIBLE BY ANY ANCIENT JEWISH
PROPHET, OR EVEN THE HISTORIANS
MUST BE THE LOCATIONS THAT
THEY WERE A PART OF,
OR LIVING IN, OR REPORTING
ABOUT, AT THE TIME
THEY WROTE THE BOOK. NOW,
WHEN YOU GO BACK 2600 YEARS AGO
YOU GO TO EZEKIEL 38:2 AND
YOU SEE MAGOG. AND THAT IS
A PIECE OF REAL ESTATE.
IT'S ACTUALLY SAYING,
"GOG IN THE LAND OF MAGOG."
GOG IS THE PERSON,
MAGOG IS THE PLACE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO
DETERMINE WHO MAGOG IS, AND
THAT WOULD BE THE HEBREW NAME
FOR THIS NATION, YOU HAVE TO GO
ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BOOK
OF GENESIS CHAPTER 10.
IN CHAPTER 9 THE LORD TOLD
NOAH AND HIS THREE SONS
TO BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY
AND RE-PEOPLE THE EARTH.
IN FACT, IN 9:6 HE ESTABLISHED
HUMAN GOVERNMENT. NOW HE DID
THAT EVEN BEFORE HE BROUGHT
NATIONS INTO EXISTENCE.
GENESIS, CHAPTER 10 IS TALKING
ABOUT THE SONS OF NOAH, THEY
WOULD BE GRANDSONS OF NOAH
AS WELL, WOULD BE BORN.
THEY WOULD RAISE THEIR FAMILIES
AND THEN THEY WOULD GO TO
A SPECIAL LOCATION AND
THERE ESTABLISH A NATION.
YOU LOOK AT 10:1-5, YOU SEE
HE MENTIONS THE SONS OF
JAPHETH. AND THOSE NAMES ARE
MAGOG, MESHECH, TUBAL, GOMER
AND TOGARMAH. THERE ARE
A COUPLE OF OTHER BROTHERS,
BUT THOSE ARE THE KEY THAT WILL
HELP US UNDERSTAND EZEKIEL 38.
NOW WE KNOW BY MANY YEARS
OF STUDY, AND THE GEOGRAPHICAL
SCHOLARS THAT LOOKED AT
THE BIBLE AND CAME TO SOME
CONCLUSIONS, WOULD HELP US TO
UNDERSTAND THAT MAGOG AFTER
RAISING HIS FAMILY, GIVING THEM
A LANGUAGE, THEY WOULD GO NORTH
OF THE BLACK SEA AND
THE CASPIAN SEA TO A PIECE OF
REAL ESTATE THAT WE KNOW TODAY
AS RUSSIA. SO WE THEN DETERMINE
MAGOG IS RUSSIA.
IN VERSE 2 AS WELL YOU HAVE
MESHECH AND TUBAL.
DOWN IN VERSE 6 YOU HAVE
TOGARMAH AND GOMER. AND THOSE
ARE FOUR LOCATIONS THAT ARE IN
SIMILAR CONTINENTS ON THE WORLD
STAGE TODAY. THAT WOULD BE
MODERN-DAY TURKEY.
GO BACK TO THE TIME OF ASIA
MINOR, THAT'S WHEN PAUL WAS
DOING HIS MISSIONARY JOURNEYS
THROUGHOUT ASIA MINOR AND THEN
INTO EUROPE. AND YOU CAN SEE
ANY ANCIENT MAP AT THAT TIME,
TURKEY WAS DIVIDED INTO
FOUR PARTS: MESHECH, TUBAL,
GOMER, TOGARMAH.
AND SO THERE'S THAT SECOND
NATION THAT WE SEE.
IN VERSE 5 IN THE TEXT IT SAYS
PERSIA. AND THAT WAS THE NAME
ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL 1936
OF WHAT BECAME ACTUALLY THREE
NATIONS, AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN
AND THE MAJOR NATION, IRAN.
PERSIA THEN IS GOING TO BE
A PLAYER, AND WE'RE LOOKING
AT IRAN SPECIFICALLY AS WE LOOK
AT THE SCENARIO, THE PROPHETIC
SCENARIO THERE IN THE BOOK OF
EZEKIEL 38. NEXT YOU SEE
IN THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION,
ETHIOPIA AND THEN LIBYA.
THAT WOULD BE CUSH WHICH WOULD
BE ETHIOPIA. AND WHEN YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT CUSH, MOST OF
THE TIME YOU ARE REFERRING TO
SUDAN, BUT IT CAN BRING IN
ETHIOPIA, IT CAN BRING IN
SOMALIA AS WELL,
BUT THE MAIN FOCUS IS ON SUDAN.
AND THEN LIBYA WOULD BE PUT IN
THE HEBREW BIBLE, AND THAT IS
THE WESTERN PART OF NORTHERN
AFRICA WHERE LIBYA IS LOCATED
TODAY. OF COURSE THE WHOLE
FOCUS OF THIS COALITION
OF NATIONS, THEY WILL ALIGN
THEMSELVES TO COME AGAINST
THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL.
THERE YOU BRING YOUR SIX
PLAYERS INTO EZEKIEL 38.
>>ANKERBERG: ALRIGHT.
NOW SO IN BRIEF WHAT DOES
EZEKIEL SAY? AND I WANT YOU
TO USE YOUR PILLARS UP HERE
TO ILLUSTRATE, NOT ONLY
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT THEN
WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
ACCORDING TO THE PROPHETIC
CALENDAR.
>>DEYOUNG: WELL, LET ME LOOK
THROUGH THE CALENDAR OF EVENTS
THAT THE LORD HAS PLANNED FOR
THE FUTURE. YOU SEE THREE
PILLARS IN FRONT OF YOU,
AND AS YOU'RE SITTING THERE
IN FRONT OF THE TELEVISION.
YOU SEE ONE ON YOUR LEFT,
AND THEN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN
ON THE RIGHT. THE ONE ON
THE LEFT WOULD REPRESENT
THE FIRST EVENT, THE NEXT EVENT
IN GOD'S CALENDAR OF
ACTIVITIES, WHICH WOULD BE
THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH.
NOW, THAT WORD RAPTURE IS NOT
USED IN THE BIBLE, BUT
THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT EVENT
IS FOUND IN
FIRST THESSALONIANS 4:13-18,
JOHN 14:1-6, AND THE BOOK OF
REVELATION, WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT 4:1. AND THESE THREE
PASSAGES OF SCRIPTURE ARE
TALKING ABOUT JESUS SHOUTING,
THE ARCHANGEL SHOUTING,
THE TRUMP OF GOD SOUNDING,
AND WE'LL BE CAUGHT UP
TO MEET HIM IN THE AIR.
THAT IS THE RAPTURE OF
THE CHURCH DESCRIBED IN GOD'S
WORD. YOU SEE A SPACE BETWEEN
THE FIRST PILLAR TO YOUR LEFT
AND THEN THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.
THAT WOULD BE A SEVEN YEAR
PERIOD OF TIME. THAT IS
REFERRED TO AS THE TRIBULATION.
IN FACT BY JESUS, AND THAT'S
WHERE I GOT THE TITLE FROM,
MATTHEW 24:29 WHEN HE SAYS,
"IMMEDIATELY AFTER
THE TRIBULATION I AM GOING
TO COME BACK TO THE EARTH.
NOW, THAT WOULD BE
THE MIDDLE PILLAR THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS
THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST.
ON YOUR LEFT WOULD BE
THE RAPTURE; THE SPACE,
THE TRIBULATION PERIOD.
THE MIDDLE PILLAR WOULD THEN BE
THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST BACK
TO THE EARTH. THAT'S SOMETIMES
REFERRED TO AS THE SECOND
COMING. JESUS CHRIST COMES BACK
TO THE EARTH, GOD THE FATHER
GIVES HIM HIS KINGDOM,
AND THAT IS THAT SPACE BETWEEN
THE MIDDLE PILLAR
AND THE FAR RIGHT PILLAR.
AND THAT'S THE KINGDOM PERIOD,
THAT'S A 1000-YEAR PERIOD
OF TIME WHEN JESUS CHRIST WILL
RULE AND REIGN FROM THE CITY OF
JERUSALEM ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
AT THE END OF THAT TIME WE THEN
SEE THE THIRD PILLAR, WHICH IS
REPRESENTING THE RETRIBUTION.
AND THAT IS THE GREAT WHITE
THRONE JUDGMENT WHEN JESUS WILL
HAVE ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE NOT
RECEIVED HIM AS LORD AND
SAVIOR, THEIR NAME IS NOT
WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE.
THEY WILL STAND BEFORE HIM TO
BE SENTENCED INTO THE LAKE OF
FIRE. SO YOU HAVE THE RAPTURE
TO THE LEFT, IN THE MIDDLE
YOU HAVE THE RETURN, AND THEN
YOU HAVE THE RETRIBUTION.
AND AFTER THAT
WE HAVE ETERNITY FUTURE.
>>ANKERBERG: ALRIGHT.
NOW, THE BIBLICAL PASSAGE
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
IN EZEKIEL 38, AFTER HE NAMES
THESE NATIONS, IN BRIEF HE SAYS
THERE'S GOING TO BE A COALITION
OF NATIONS, AND HE NAMES THESE
THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED
ABOUT. AND THEY ARE GOING TO
COME AGAINST THE NATION
OF ISRAEL, OKAY? THERE'S GOING
TO BE A WAR. NOW, BEFORE
WE DESCRIBE THAT MORE FULLY,
WHERE IN YOUR SCENARIO DOES
THAT WAR COME?
>>DEYOUNG: YOU HAVE THE RAPTURE
OVER HERE ON YOUR LEFT, AND
THEN THE TRIBULATION PERIOD.
IN ESSENCE IN THE FIRST SIX
MONTHS OF THAT TRIBULATION
PERIOD, THAT'S WHERE I PUT
THE BATTLE OF GOG AND MAGOG.
IT'S IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS
BECAUSE OF MANY OTHER
SCRIPTURES THAT HELP US
TO RECOGNIZE THAT IS THE TIME.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT,
EZEKIEL 38 LISTS THE SIX
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BRING TO
THE TABLE AS WELL PSALM 83
WHICH ADDS TWO ADDITIONAL
NATIONS, SAUDI ARABIA AND
LEBANON. AND THEN YOU GO BACK
TO DANIEL 11:40-45, AND THAT
BRINGS THEN INTO OUR DISCUSSION
BOTH SYRIA AND EGYPT.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE ENTIRE
CONSTITUENCY OF THOSE WHO HATE
THE JEWISH PEOPLE, WHO WANT TO
TRY TO WIPE THEM OFF THE FACE
OF THE EARTH. THAT HAPPENING
IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS
AFTER THE RAPTURE
INTO THE TRIBULATION.
>>ANKERBERG: JIMMY, WHEN WE
LOOK AT EZEKIEL 38, IT SAYS
THAT RUSSIA, INTERESTING,
IS GOING TO LEAD THE PACK,
ALRIGHT? HE'S GOING TO LEAD
THE COALITION OF NATIONS.
AND THE QUESTION IS, DO WE SEE
EVIDENCE OF THIS TODAY?
AND WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS
THAT THE BIBLE SAYS IS GOING TO
UNITE THIS COALITION OF NATIONS
TO COME AGAINST ISRAEL,
AND DO WE SEE EVIDENCE OF THAT
TODAY IN THE NEWS?
>>DEYOUNG: WELL, LET'S THINK
ABOUT RUSSIA JUST FOR A MOMENT.
WHEN JUDY AND I GOT TO ISRAEL
BACK IN 1991, THAT WAS THE TIME
OF THE GULF CRISIS. AND WE WERE
THERE FOR THE 39 SCUD ATTACKS.
BUT ANOTHER VERY INTERESTING
THING TOOK PLACE AT THE END
OF 1991 WITH THE FALL OF
THE SOVIET UNION. AT THAT TIME,
THE SOVIET UNION BECAME KNOWN
AS "THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION".
BORIS YELTSIN FOR THE NEXT
EIGHT YEARS WOULD BE PRESIDENT.
HE BROUGHT A MAN WHO WAS
ASSISTANT MAYOR OVER IN
ST. PETERSBURG INTO
HIS ADMINISTRATION.
AND IN 1999 BORIS YELTSIN
RESIGNED AND APPOINTED THIS
YOUNG MAN AS THE PRESIDENT
OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.
THAT YOUNG MAN'S NAME:
VLADIMIR PUTIN. AND THAT GAVE
HIM HIS START AS THE LEADER
OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.
HE RAN FOR ELECTION AND FOR
THE NEXT TWO TERMS OF EIGHT
YEARS HE WAS THE LEADER OF
THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE.
AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME
HE WAS, BY TERM LIMITS,
RESTRICTED FROM RUNNING AGAIN.
HE PUT HIS NUMBER TWO MAN,
MEDVEDEV, IN AS THE PRESIDENT,
HE BECAME THE PRIME MINISTER.
AND THEN HE HAD
THE CONSTITUTION CHANGED
SO THAT HE COULD BECOME
THE POWERFUL LEADER OF RUSSIA
WITH SIX-YEAR TERMS, GIVING HIM
A 12-YEAR TERM BEFORE HIS TIME
WOULD RUN OUT AS PRESIDENT.
THE REASON I GAVE YOU THAT
BACKGROUND IS THAT IS HELPING
US TO UNDERSTAND HOW VLADIMIR
PUTIN HAS BECOME SO POWERFUL.
SINCE 1999 HE HAS BASICALLY
BEEN LEADING THIS COUNTRY
OF RUSSIA; RUSSIA [IS] AMONG
THE TOP NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
YOU'D PUT CHINA; YOU'D PROBABLY
PUT INDIA IN THERE; THE UNITED
STATES OF COURSE; BUT RUSSIA.
THEY HAVE A VERY STRONG
MILITARY. THEY'RE CONTINUING
TO REVAMP THEIR MILITARY
TO MAKE IT ULTIMATELY
THE STRONGEST IN THE WORLD.
THEY HAVE NUCLEAR POWERS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT
RUSSIA IS A MAJOR PLAYER
ON THE WORLD SCENE.
NOW, WHEN YOU ADD TO THAT
THE EXTENSION OF RUSSIA INTO
THE MIDDLE EAST. THIS HAPPENED
BACK IN THE 60'S AND THE 70'S,
BUT IT'S REALLY TAKING PLACE
TODAY AS RUSSIA REACHES OUT TO
THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES,
THOSE THAT WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT WHEN WE INTRODUCED
EZEKIEL 38. I'M TALKING ABOUT
IRAN. WHAT DID THEY DO FOR
IRAN? THEY ASSISTED THEM IN
DEVELOPING A NUCLEAR WEAPON
OF MASS DESTRUCTION PROGRAM.
THEY GAVE THEM THE TECHNOLOGY,
THE TECHNICIANS TO BRING THAT
ABOUT. THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
NOW WITH TURKEY, WITH EGYPT,
WITH SYRIA. THEY HAVE
A RELATIONSHIP EVEN WITH
SAUDI ARABIA, WHO ARE GOING
TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER
THESE ATOMIC ENERGY OUTLETS
WHERE THEY CAN DEVELOP
THE ENERGY THEY NEED TO LIVE.
BUT THAT IS JUST SIMPLY
THE BEGINNING OF PUTTING
TOGETHER A NUCLEAR WEAPON
PROGRAM. SO HE'S DEVELOPING
THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH
ALL THE PLAYERS THAT ARE LISTED
THERE IN EZEKIEL 38.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVERYBODY
EXCEPT RUSSIA, ALL THE OTHER
PLAYERS THAT WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT, THE LOWEST COMMON
DENOMINATOR, THEY ARE ISLAMIC.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BRING THEM
TOGETHER. AND RUSSIA, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF
RUSSIA, YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE
HOW THE ISLAMIC FAITH IS
GROWING IN THAT NATION AS WELL.
THERE'S A HATRED AMONG ALL OF
THOSE ISLAMIC NATIONS OF
THE JEWISH PEOPLE. THAT PULLS
YOU TOGETHER AS A UNIT.
WHEN YOU HAVE AN ENEMY THAT YOU
WANT TO DESTROY, YOU BASICALLY
CAN, MOST OF THE TIME, FORGET
ABOUT YOUR OWN PROBLEMS WITH
THE OTHER NATIONS MENTIONED AND
FOCUS ON YOUR ENEMY, THE NATION
OF ISRAEL. THE WHOLE PURPOSE
FOR THIS COALITION IS
TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE FACE
OF THE EARTH.
>>ANKERBERG: YES.
AND LET'S FACE IT.
RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE MAJOR
THINGS THAT THE UNITED STATES
HAS IS A PROBLEM WITH RUSSIA.
WE CAN'T GET THEM TO COOPERATE
ALMOST ON ANYTHING AND
THE TENSIONS ARE RISING.
NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HAS HAPPENED IS RUSSIA HAS
ENCROACHED INTO SYRIA, OKAY?
AND TRUMP MADE A DEAL WITH
PUTIN RECENTLY, AND THERE IS
A SAFE ZONE. BUT WHO'S GUARDING
THAT SAFE ZONE? AND WHAT
RAMIFICATIONS DOES THAT HAVE?
>>DEYOUNG: SOUNDS LIKE THE FOX
IS GUARDING THE CHICKEN COOP
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT:
WHO'S GUARDING THAT SAFE ZONE
THERE IN SYRIA.
>>ANKERBERG: NOW EXPLAIN THAT
TO PEOPLE, BECAUSE YOU'RE
COMING FROM ISRAEL SAYING THAT.
EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN.
>>DEYOUNG: WE WERE JUST ON
THE ISRAELI BORDER WITH SYRIA.
THAT'S IN THE NORTH AT MOUNT
HERMON. OUR TOUR GROUP THAT
WE WERE TAKING THROUGH THE LAND
STOPPED AT A PLACE ACROSS FROM
QUNEITRA, WHICH HAD BEEN
AN ISOLATED CITY SINCE 1967
WHEN THE SIX-DAY WAR TOOK
PLACE. AND SYRIA WAS ONE OF
THE MAJOR PLAYERS TRYING TO
WIPE ISRAEL BEGINNING AT THAT
TIME OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
WHEN THE ISRAELIS WERE ABLE TO
WIN AND PUSH THE SYRIANS OUT
OF THE GOLAN HEIGHTS, THERE WAS
A LOCATION, A LITTLE COMMUNITY
THERE CALLED QUNEITRA RIGHT
ON THE BORDER. AND SO
WHAT THEY DID, SYRIA AT
THAT POINT, BASHAR AL-ASSAD'S
FATHER HAFEZ AL-ASSAD DECIDED
TO EVACUATE THAT CITY, MAKE IT
A PROPAGANDA PLOY TO THE WORLD
THAT THEY WERE AFRAID THAT
THE STATE OF ISRAEL, THE JEWISH
STATE OF ISRAEL, WOULD ATTACK
THEM. WELL, THE RUSSIANS HAVE
JUST MOVED INTO QUNEITRA.
THEY ARE WITHIN FIVE MILES OF
THE ISRAELI BORDER. THEY ARE
NOW IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING
A PERMANENT BASE THERE
AT QUNEITRA. THEY HAVE JUST
BROUGHT IN 5,000 MERCENARIES,
MOST OF THEM OUT OF SOUTH
AMERICA. MOST OF THOSE OUT OF
THE 5,000 WOULD BE FROM
ARGENTINA. AND THEY ARE
A ELEMENT OF ALL THE COMMANDO
UNITS THAT USED TO FIGHT WITH
THE RUSSIANS AND NOW HAVE
BECOME SOLDIERS FOR HIRE.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU PAY ME AND
I'LL BE YOUR SOLDIER WHEREVER
YOU NEED ME. SEND ME IN
AS MERCENARIES. THESE ARE ALL
STATIONED ON THE ISRAELI BORDER
THERE IN THE NORTH IN
THE GOLAN HEIGHTS. REMEMBER
THE GOLAN HEIGHTS EXTENDS OVER
INTO SYRIA. THAT'S THE NORTHERN
PART OF THE GOLAN HEIGHTS.
THE SOUTHERN PART EXTENDS
INTO ISRAEL ABOUT 67 MILES.
NOW, AT THE SAME TIME THAT
THE RUSSIANS ARE BUILDING
THAT PERMANENT BASE, THEY BRING
THEIR FRIENDS WHO ARE A PART
OF IRAN. WE TALKED ABOUT IRAN,
TALKED ABOUT PERSIA,
EARLIER ON IN EZEKIEL 38.
WELL, THE SURROGATE TERRORIST
ORGANIZATION FOR THE IRANIANS
WOULD BE HEZBOLLAH IN SOUTHERN
LEBANON. AND SO THEY BRING
THESE TERRORISTS ACTUALLY,
OVER INTO THE BORDER AROUND
QUNEITRA THERE IN ISRAEL'S
NORTHERN BORDER. YOU HAVE
THE SYRIAN SOLDIERS.
WAIT A MINUTE! AS WE STOP TO
THINK ABOUT IT AS I'M SAYING
THAT, I AGAIN REALIZE THAT
AS THE COALITION STARTING TO
FORM TO GO AGAINST THE JEWISH
STATE OF ISRAEL. THAT IS
EZEKIEL ALMOST BEING PLAYED OUT
ON THE WORLD STAGE TODAY.
SO THEY ARE GATHERED THERE
AT THE ISRAELI BORDER.
AND IN FACT, THE ISRAELI
DEFENSE FORCE IS SO MUCH
CONCERNED, THEY HAVE MASSED
THEIR TROOPS ON THE SOUTHERN
SIDE OF THE BORDER IN
ANTICIPATION OF WHAT MAY BE
TAKING PLACE. AND WHEN YOU LOOK
AT IT YOU'VE GOT SYRIA WHO WILL
MAKE THE FIRST MOVE TO GO
AGAINST THE JEWISH STATE
OF ISRAEL; RUSSIA, IRAN,
HEZBOLLAH, AND THEN YOU HAVE
ALL OF THE OTHER FORCES
WAITING TO COME IN
AND JOIN THIS COALITION.
>>ANKERBERG: YES.
NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT AND
SPOKE TO THE ARAB LEAGUE IN
SAUDI ARABIA AND SO ON, AND
OVER THE 51 REPRESENTATIVE
NATIONS THAT WERE THERE.
AND THEN CAME TO ISRAEL.
AND I REMEMBER REUVEN RIVLIN,
THE PRESIDENT OF ISRAEL,
PUT HIS ARMS AROUND TRUMP AND
GAVE HIM A GREAT BIG HUG, AND
WAS AS HAPPY AS I'VE EVER SEEN
REUVEN. AND THEN HE WENT AND
HE HAD DINNER WITH NETANYAHU.
AND NETANYAHU, AFTER HE HEARD
THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GOING
TO CREATE THIS SAFE ZONE IN
SYRIA, AND RUSSIA WAS GOING TO
GUARD IT, THERE WERE TWO THINGS
THAT HE SAID THAT HE DIDN'T
LIKE ABOUT IT. WHAT WAS IT?
>>DEYOUNG: WELL, THE FACT IS
THAT THEY HAVE...
THAT OPPORTUNITY HAS BEEN TAKEN
AWAY FROM THEM TO BE ABLE TO
STRIKE THE ELEMENTS THAT THEY
MAY NEED TO STRIKE IN SYRIA.
IN OTHER WORDS, SYRIA HAS BEEN
ACCUSED OF USING CHEMICAL
WEAPONS. AND THE TRANSFER OF
THOSE CHEMICAL WEAPONS OVER
TO HEZBOLLAH HAS BEEN PREVALENT
THROUGHOUT THESE LAST FIVE
OR SIX YEARS OF THE CIVIL WAR
THERE IN SYRIA. AND YOU'LL KNOW
THAT, IF YOU HAVE READ
THE NEWSPAPER OR HEARD
THE TELEVISION REPORTS THAT
THE ISRAELI JETS WOULD GO IN
AND TAKE OUT THOSE CONVOYS THAT
WERE MOVING TOWARDS HEZBOLLAH.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S RIGHT
AT ISRAEL'S NORTHERN BORDER.
SO THAT'S A VERY SCARY TYPE OF
A SITUATION. BUT IN THE PROCESS
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PEACE.
THAT WAS THE REASON THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT INTO SAUDI
ARABIA, MET WITH 51 OF THE ARAB
AND ISLAMIC STATES LEADERS, AND
TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY NEEDED
TO DO TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
WITH ISRAEL. WENT THEN TO
ISRAEL, MET WITH NETANYAHU,
AND FROM THERE HE LEFT AND
WENT OVER TO MEET WITH
THE POPE IN ROME. WELL,
THAT'S A PROPHETIC SCENARIO IN
GOD'S WORD. BECAUSE THE WAY
THIS COALITION IS GOING TO GET
READY TO MOVE IN AND ENDEAVOR
TO DESTROY THE JEWISH STATE IS
WHEN THE JEWS ARE LIVING IN
A LAND IN PEACE, OR A PSEUDO
PEACE. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE
A VERY INTERESTING TIME,
BECAUSE IT HAPPENS AFTER
THE RAPTURE AT THE BEGINNING
OF THE TRIBULATION PERIOD.
>>ANKERBERG: YES. WHAT GOT ME
ABOUT NETANYAHU, AFTER TRUMP
LEFT WAS HE SAID, "YOU CAN
CREATE THAT SAFE ZONE, BUT IF
YOU BRING IN IRAN'S TROOPS,
IF YOU DO NOT PROTECT ISRAEL,
IT'S NOT GOING TO KEEP ISRAEL
FROM ATTACKING INSIDE THAT
SAFE ZONE." SO WE ALREADY HAVE
SOME PROBLEMS THAT ARE,
THAT ARE COMING UP.
THERE'S A REPORT THAT SAYS
THERE ARE 120,000 ROCKETS
ALREADY AIMED AT ISRAEL ON
THE LEBANON SIDE OVER THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER ROCKETS
THAT ARE ON THE SYRIAN SIDE,
ALL POINTED AT ISRAEL.
THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY COULD
LET OFF OVER 1200 TO 1500
ROCKETS A DAY. AN IRON DOME
WITH ALL OF ITS FACETS STILL
COULDN'T COVER ALL OF THOSE
ROCKETS. SO THAT'S WHAT ISRAEL
IS FACING RIGHT NOW.
SO, WE'VE GOT TENSION COMING
BIG TIME IN THE DAYS AHEAD
WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
>>DEYOUNG: WELL, IN FACT,
IF YOU REMEMBER I TOLD YOU
WE STOPPED THERE ON THE ISRAELI
SIDE IN THE GOLAN HEIGHTS
ACROSS FROM QUNEITRA.
AND AS OUR BUS STOPPED AND
THE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GET
OFF AND TAKE SOME PICTURES,
ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ISRAELI
DEFENSE FORCE JEEP DROVE UP.
THEY SAID, "GET BACK IN
THE BUS. THEY HAVE JUST LOBBED
A MISSILE ACROSS THE BORDER."
AND SO THOSE MISSILES
ARE STARTING TO COME ACROSS.
WHETHER IT'S BY ACCIDENT OR
WHETHER IT'S BY PURPOSE,
THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCE
IS NOT SAYING RIGHT THIS
MOMENT. BUT THE TENSION IS
THERE. THAT BORDER IS AS HOT
AS IT'S EVER BEEN AS LONG AS
I'VE BEEN STUDYING
BIBLE PROPHECY.
>>ANKERBERG: ALRIGHT.
NEXT WEEK, FOLKS, WE'RE GOING
TO TAKE ONE OF THE OTHER
NATIONS THAT THE PROPHET
EZEKIEL TALKS ABOUT.
AND THAT IS PERSIA, AND THAT IS
IRAN. AND OF COURSE THERE IS
A TON TO TALK ABOUT. JIMMY HAS
JUST COME FROM ISRAEL SO
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL
OF THAT, AND WHERE ARE EVENTS
HEADED, AND HOW CLOSE ARE WE
TO THE EZEKIEL 38 WAR?
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE NEWS SHOULD YOU INTERPRET
THE NEWS IN LIGHT OF EZEKIEL 38
IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN?
I THINK YOU SHOULD,
BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING PLENTY
OF EXAMPLES, ALRIGHT?
SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL JOIN US
NEXT WEEK AS WE CONTINUE
TO LOOK AT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
ABOUT WORLD EVENTS THAT
WE'RE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW.
>>ANNOUNCER: IF YOU WOULD LIKE
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>>JOHN ANKERBERG: NOW FOLKS AS
WE CLOSE OUR PROGRAM TODAY,
I WANT TO GIVE YOU A REPORT
OF WHAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO HELP
MY FRIEND HANNU HAUKKA PROVIDE
"POWER TO CHANGE" BOOKS FOR
THE PEOPLE IN RUSSIA AND CUBA.
HERE IS A REPORT
THAT HANNU SENT.
>>HANNU HAUKKA: JOHN, I WANT
TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU
AND TO THE AUDIENCE OF
THE JOHN ANKERBERG SHOW
FOR HELPING US PROVIDE
"POWER TO CHANGE" BOOKS FOR
THOSE IN RUSSIA AND IN CUBA.
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE JOHN ANKERBERG SHOW,
WE HAVE NOW BEEN ABLE
TO PRINT OVER 1 MILLION
"POWER TO CHANGE" BOOKS FOR
RUSSIA AND OVER 150,000
"POWER TO CHANGE" BOOKS
FOR CUBA. EACH BOOK REPRESENTS
A PERSON WHO HAS HEARD AND
RECEIVED THE GOSPEL AND HAS
GIVEN THEIR LIFE TO JESUS
CHRIST. THIS MEANS THAT OVER
A MILLION PEOPLE'S ETERNITY
HAS BEEN CHANGED AND WILL BE
CHANGED BECAUSE OF YOUR HELP.
THERE COULD BE EVEN MORE SINCE
MANY WHO COME TO FAITH, THEY
SHARE THEIR COPY OF THE BOOK
WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
YOUR HELP HAS COME AT A CRUCIAL
TIME FOR THOSE IN RUSSIA AND
IN CUBA. CONCERNING RUSSIA,
PERSECUTION IS CONTINUING
TO INCREASE. JUST RECENTLY
70 PASTORS HAVE BEEN ROUNDED
UP, ARRESTED AND FINED BY
THE GOVERNMENT ON FALSE
CHARGES. MOREOVER,
MANY CHURCHES ARE BEING RAIDED
BY THE GOVERNMENT'S SECRET
SERVICES. THESE SECRET SERVICE
AGENTS, THEY COME IN
UNANNOUNCED, THEY LOCK
THE DOORS, AND THEY RECORD
EVERYBODY'S PERSONAL
INFORMATION. I WAS ALSO PRESENT
AT ONE SPECIAL EVENT WHERE
THE CHURCHES WERE FINED UP TO
$30,000 FOR THIS ONE SPECIAL
EVENT. BUT YOUR GENEROSITY
HAS ALLOWED A MILLION
"POWER TO CHANGE" BOOKS TO BE
PRINTED INSIDE RUSSIA BEFORE
THIS WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY
CLOSES. IN CUBA RIGHT NOW,
GOD IS DOING A GREAT WORK TO
DRAW MANY INTO A RELATIONSHIP
WITH JESUS CHRIST.
YOUR GIFT OF THESE "POWER TO
CHANGE" BOOKS IN SPANISH IS
HELPING THE CUBAN CHURCH REACH
THEIR NATION DURING THIS UNIQUE
TIME OF HARVEST. AND LET ME
SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
YOUR GENEROSITY TO PROVIDE
THESE "POWER TO CHANGE" BOOKS
FOR RUSSIA AND CUBA IS MAKING
IT POSSIBLE FOR OVER A MILLION
PEOPLE TO HEAR THE GOSPEL AND
BE CHANGED THROUGH A PERSONAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
THANK-YOU JOHN AND THANK YOU
JOHN ANKERBERG SHOW.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU.
>>ANKERBERG: FOLKS, CAN I TELL
YOU I AM SO PROUD OF THE WAY
THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO PRINT
THESE "POWER TO CHANGE" BOOKS.
I JUST RETURNED FROM SPEAKING
IN INDIA WHERE I MET WITH
HANNU HAUKKA AND HE WAS JUST
THRILLED WITH THE GENEROUS HELP
THAT WE GAVE HIM. HE ALSO TOLD
ME THAT HE IS CONSIDERING
OF ALL THINGS, GOING AND DOING
A MEGACITY OUTREACH IN MOSUL,
THE SECOND LARGEST CITY
IN IRAQ WITH A POPULATION
[OF] ABOUT 2 MILLION PEOPLE.
ALMOST A MILLION PEOPLE WERE
DISPLACED WHEN ISIS CAPTURED
THE CITY AND THEY ARE NOW
RETURNING AFTER ISIS HAS BEEN
DEFEATED THERE. I TOLD HANNU
THAT IF HE GOES INTO THAT CITY
TO BRING THEM THE GOSPEL,
WE WANT TO HELP HIM.
PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE IN ALL OF
THESE COUNTRIES THAT THEY WILL
BE OPEN TO HEARING ABOUT
GOD'S LOVE AND THE SALVATION
THAT ONLY CHRIST CAN PROVIDE.
BUT FOR NOW, GOOD BYE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
AND I'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
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