ninety-five out of every 100 American adults owns a cell phone today and
worldwide three out of four adults now have cell phone access the wireless
industry is one of the fastest growing on earth raking in annual sales of four
hundred and forty billion dollars in 2016 but our cell phones safe well a new
investigation by the nation's suggests that's a question that cell phone Giants
prefer you don't ask the article by journalist Marc Hertz guard and mark Dow
is headlined how big Wireless made us think that cell phones are safe the
article notes that cell phones were first marketed to US consumers in the
1980s without any government safety testing then a decade later one of the
industry's own hand-picked researchers Jorge Carlo reportedly told top company
officials including leaders of Apple AT&T and Motorola that some industry
commissioned studies raise serious questions about cell phone safety on
October 7th 1999 Carlos sent letters to industry CEOs urging them to give
consumers quote the information they need to make an informed judgment about
how much of this unknown risk they wish to assume instead the cellular
telecommunications and internet Association reportedly tried to
discredit Carlos findings and had him physically removed from its premises
during its annual conference in February 2000 the Nation magazine investigation
notes Carlos story evokes eerie parallels with two of the most notorious
cases of corporate deception on record the campaigns by the tobacco and fossil
fuel industries to obscure the dangers of smoking and climate change
respectively for more we go to San Francisco to speak with one of the
authors of this new investigation Marc Hertz GOG the nation's environment
correspondent and investigative editor author of seven books including hot
living through the next 50 years on earth a mark welcome back to Democracy
Now talk about what you have found what we do know about cell phone safety and
how dangerous are cell phones let me emphasize a miaar piece is not
saying that cell phones are safe or are not safe our piece is an
investigative expose showing you how the cellular industry has worked for 25
years behind the scenes to convince you that cell phones are safe when in fact
if you look at the independently funded science the picture is a lot more mixed
than that and as you mentioned there's that smoking gun memo letter I should
say from George Carlo in 1999 telling the CEOs of all these big companies look
this stuff is raising serious questions especially about kids and cancer and
genetic damage and I think that's the real parallel with both big oil and big
tobacco in each case these big companies were told privately by their own
scientists that there's serious questions about your product whether it
be cigarettes or fossil fuels or cell phones and in each case those executives
decided not to share that with the public but rather to keep that
information to themselves while telling the public and telling the press and
telling policymakers there's no problem there is a lot of evidence suggesting
that we need to be a lot more careful about these cellphones the World Health
Organization has listed them as a possible carcinogen
and just last week here in the United States the National Institutes of Health
had a major study peer reviewed about cell phone radiation and the peer review
scientists who are independent of government said that there was quote
clear evidence unquote that cell phones can cause cancer and that is something
that you have not read in the American media and I have to say that that's
another part of this story a me is how the US news organizations and
journalists have been hoodwinked yet again by a corporate propaganda campaign
where we listen more to what the industry says than to what independent
scientists are saying and Marc could you talk a little about the way in which
Wireless industries have tried to influence the scientific research on the
effects or possible effects of cell phone use
sure the the term that they use is wargaming they have war gamed the
science that comes from an internal memo in 1994 from Motorola a major cell phone
manufacturer which at that point was already facing lawsuits from customers
claiming that their brain tumors had come from Motorola supplied equipment
wargaming means a number of different things
it means funding science that is friendly to industry
it means discrediting science or attempting to discredit scientists that
are critical of industry and it means trying to put industry friendly
scientists on key advisory boards such as the World Health Organization and our
piece in the Nation magazine documents how when the World Health
Organization was preparing in the year 2011 to render a judgment on how likely
cellphones are to cause cancer the industry made sure to get a number of
its scientists onto the advisory boards that that consulted with the w-h-o on
that decision and that is a contrary to the conflict of interest rules that the
w-h-o has but the the industry managed to circumvent those it put money into
that process and at the end of the day in 2011 the w-h-o World Health
Organization called cell phone radiation a possible carcinogen but a number of
the scientists who were on that committee who we interviewed said that
they wanted to call it a probable and what one scientist even wanted to call
it a known carcinogen so later this year the w-h-o is going to revisit this
question of cell phone radiation and they told us that they will look very
carefully at this recent study from last week by the National Toxicology program
and the US government that found clear evidence that cellphones can cause
cancer mark you were out the industries also mounted a campaign to discredit
Lennard hard l a swedish professor of oncology serving on the working group
hard l studies which found an increase in gliomas and acoustic neuromas and
long-term cellphone users were some of the strongest evidence that the group
was considering gliomas acoustic neuromas explain what they are and
you feel has been suppressed or discredited well Leonard heart Dell the
Swedish scientists you mentioned Amy he was the one scientist on that w-h-o
committee who wanted to call cell phone radiation a known cancer risk not
probable not possible but known that would be category one and he did that on
the basis of his studies of gliomas they are a nasty brain tumor brain cancer
partly because there's a it's very difficult to treat them there it's not
like a specific sort of nodule that you can take out they kind of leak through
the brain in long strands and hard L was especially concerned about what this
means for children and I should note here Amy that you know the United States
is is quite different than other advanced countries on this in Britain in
France in Israel the government's have issued very strict limitations on cell
phone use by children in the public schools in France there are no iPads
there is no wireless partly for the reasons of addiction but also because of
these concerns about health and in the case of Leonard hotel in Sweden once he
started to publish those findings in 2002 the industry immediately mobilized
to have two of their friendly industry friendly scientists immediately put out
a paper condemning hard L well we found out that those two scientists at the
very time that they were posing as independent scientists and saying that
mister that doctor hard Dells findings were methodologically incoherent they
were consulting they were consulting to Motorola as expert witnesses in a brain
tumor case so who are you gonna believe well we have to leave it there but we're
gonna do part two and post it as a web exclusive online at democracynow.org
there's just too much to talk about from the internet of things talking about 5g
and how the campaign here mirrors what happened with big tobacco mark hurts
guards new special investigation will link to is headlined how big Wireless
made us think that cellphones are safe
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