hello and welcome again to my channel
Jesus doctrine today I want to talk
about the very very exciting topic of
discipleship Jesus says some very strong
things his final words before he ascends
into the heavens he says in Matthew 28
and he says go therefore and make
disciples of the nations baptizing them
in the name of the Father and of the Son
and of the Holy Spirit the reason that
Jesus' final of proclamation to his
disciples was not going get converts but
was go and baptize and make disciples is
really important, the reason Jesus is
focusing on this disciples is because
it's through the discipleship program
that you were really going to help
you're really going to bless you really
go into minister you're really gonna see
deliverance is you're really gonna see
transitions taking place in people's
life Jesus never said go and get people
saved and make converts go and make
Christian so that they can fill the
churches Jesus yes he wanted us to be
saved but he wanted us to also be
conformed to the image of his son he
wanted us to have the inheritance, he wanted
us to have the blessing of Jesus but you
can't have that in your life except you
have the likeness of Jesus being formed
and forged in you, being like Jesus
was always the greatest need and
discipleship has always been the means
to fulfill this need now if you're
anything like me you got saved you
started attending church and you kept to
yourself and God began to do mighty
things in your life on your own and it
was just you and Jesus for a while
although you attended the church and
people were there with you
it was very much you in Jesus if you're
that person today I am not telling this
to take anything away from you but even
Paul the Apostle with his dramatic
conversion experience knew the need to
be discipled and he had Barnabas taking
under his wing and take him away for a
season to be built upon he what he
learnt to minister he learned the
scriptures he learned the character of
God yes God was doing something special
this great apostle but he don't need it
to be discipled though he knew the
Scriptures it wasn't enough there was
still a process of spending time with
the Brethren (and God) being accountable to one
another in the brethren to being
sharpened for we know that iron sharpens
by there is essential absolutely
essential!
Discipleship isn't about
knowing the Bible or knowing the
Scriptures perfectly inside and out it's
not that at all
thus like worship is about the
Scriptures being inside of you and
changing who you are you taking on the
nature and the character of Christ oh
that's exciting and so when you get
disciple you're going to be challenged
on the way you think the way you
approach the way that you look and you
are going to challenge other people to
consider why you do that and why you
don't do this and it's part and parcel
of the process both you and the person
disciple in our learning as you go
through the issues and the difficulties
and the challenges of walking out the
Christian life together
discipleship is essential Jesus taught
multitude he preached on the
mountaintops he spoke to crowds even fed
thousands he spent a lot of time
teaching in the synagogue and correcting
the scribes and the Pharisees in public
he spent times always ministering to
crowds however,
this is not the whole
picture of the Ministry of God the
Ministry of Christ also went and he went
into houses and ate with people it went
into a quiet place and he taught men how
to pray you got people to a place where
they were able to ask questions and be
able to have conversation with him to
shape and to challenge who they were he
was able to share things about their
life he was able to reveal things that
he could see in the individuals life it
was not always this corporate experience
of being ministered to for a son there
was a complete of her element of Jesus's
ministry which we call discipleship the
reason that Jesus preached the multitude
is because he could get his message
heard by by thousands at the same time
powerful, but the reason he discipled
only a fear was
you cannot have personal relationships
if everybody you cannot go around
telling everybody your personal
information your personal life your
personal business but when you bring a
group of friends close to you and
there's a mutual trust that's gained in
that shared now you can begin to impart
who you really are your deepest secrets
why you do what you do and when you do
it you can begin to show them the
relationships that you have with your
parents and with your family and with
the Brethren your relationships that you
have with sinners and with the unsaved
as well as with the religious rulers and
teachers of his day Jesus who decide
which it was able to challenge
stereotypes the Samaritans they're
unclean don't go near them he was able
to deal with racism with prejudices with
preconceived ideas about bringing up
swords and fighting the Romans and
establishing a kingdom for our own means
you see it was who discipleship that the
impartation of how to practically live
for Jesus Christ
is shared this is what Jesus did it's
this process that it helps us through
the Holy Ghost to form Christ in us
fully so that we are ready and equipped
for every good work, you see the discipleship
ship is the key now now there's probably
some people watching is thinking oh the
side worships only really needed for
those that are going to be the pastors
or the preachers or those that feel call
or leadto minister or to lead in these
sort of ministries I want to tell you
that is absolute nonsense Jesus says go
into all the nations and make disciples
why because everybody needs discipleship
everybody needs that experience
everybody needs that family structure
around them that close-knit, someone to
speak into their life in a time,
someone to guide them,
someone to guide others,
someone that they can lead and guide.
discipleship is a process it's not
designed to make you a pupil for the
rest of your life but to bring you into
relationships where you're teaching and
when you're learning and when you're
growing not just from your own
experiences but from that of the rest of
the body of Christ for that of the rest
of the local church for that from that
from the experiences of
were Christians even not in your church
around you. Its through discipleship that
you aren't able to grow beyond your own
practical experience this is essential
Jesus was speaking about his disciples
and he said you know what govern
disciple and make disciples and those
disciples will make disciples this is
something that can continue forever
it's perpetual its sustainable this
isn't just a message that helps you this
is about giving people the character
that will help generations to come
and so we've got to be really really
clear that discipleship is essential for
everybody men and women need to be
disciples some of you think all women
aren't disciples Jesus didn't choose the
twelve, Jesus didn't just disciple
those people that would lead the church!
He disciples the people that came to
him that wanted to be discipled, now he
had limits there were some people I
fully acknowledge he says go and tell
somebody about what you see or go back
to the place where you've come from he
did do that why you cannot disciple
everybody there's no two ways about it
Jesus would have been swamped with
thousands of people if everybody could
have been a disciple at the same time
but what Jesus also understood that if
he invests properly in a group of young
men and a group of women that will
invest in other men and over women and
then once those disciples are forged in
May they can disciple in other men and
over women and the longer you a disciple
the less contact time you're probably
going to need with those people that
disciple you freeing them up to disciple
of us this is about perpetuating the
kingdom of God, His righteousness and the
character and the nature of Jesus Christ
in your life.
So you're probably thinking
okay I said a lot about Jesus discipling
in everybody let's have a meet
specifically about Jesus disciple in
women
and so I'm gonna read from you
Luke chapter 10 verse 38 downwards now
it came to pass
I say when's he entered into a certain
village where a woman named Martha
received him into a house she had a
sister called Mary which also said Jesus
feet and heard his words.
stop
so we got two sisters Martha bless her song was a
good sister and she does something that
is very typical of righteous holy
women she opened their home up to Christ
and she allowed Christ into a home she
allowed him to come into her house and
to minister not only to herself but to
her sister Mary and to her family it's
through opening ourselves up the through
the discipleship process that we allow
the blessing of the character change and
the confrontation to become more and
more who God wants us to be to happen in
our life now when they get into the
house something interesting happens Mary
sits at his feet, like anybody would when
they listening to someone is teaching or
guiding or instructing
now let's see what else happens
but Martha was cumbered about much serving and came
about to him and said Lord do you not
care that my sister has left me to serve
alone bid her therefore that she helped
me and jesus answered and said unto her
Martha Martha you are careful and
troubled about many things but
one thing is needful! Mary had chosen a good part
which,
shall not be taken away from her
stop
so Mary he's sitting at the feet of
Jesus whilst her sister a is doing what
women do and they cater, they feed they are
hospitable and they make everybody feel
so welcome in the house.
This was something that was very important
This is something that's crucial today
Christians ought to be hospitable
however, Jesus used even hospitality of
Martha to begin to teach something but,
Sometimes there is a time that you've
got to be still and be and hear the word
of God.
You've got to be still and have a
time to reflect, there's gonna be a
time where you're able to sit at the
Masters feet and have a time for
yourself with God.
He wasn't condemning Martha for her actions,
in fact if Martha had not opened her home then there would
have been no discipleship happening
here because,
discipleship is always a
choice an individual has to open
themselves up and it is clearly Martha's
decision to be disciple that Mary ends
up being blessed.
We need to not condemn this woman here now because,
we need to
understand what's going on but, Jesus uses
Martha was opening a home and Mary sitting
at the feet of Jesus, to be able to show Martha,
'not only do you need to open yourself
but that sometimes you need to sit at
the feet and listen for yourself that
isn't to say that serving isn't an
important role.
Some people make this into gender, saying Jesus was trying to make
everyone a disciple and everyone a
teacher and everyone a preacher.
Discipleship is not about preaching,
discipleship is not about gender,
it's about character and Jesus here is trying
to teach that sometimes opening yourself up
and then being busy about the things of
God, the things of righteousness,
the things that need to be done isn't enough,
sometimes we need to take that time
alone in the same way that Jesus
preached to the multitude and he took
his disciples to quite solitude place,
to pray.
There is something being
taught to men and to women about having
alone personal time, where God is able to
minister to our needs.
Discipleship it's his personal character confrontation us, Now
Jesus wouldn't have been able to do that
to a multitude, he couldn't just up his
sermon and say Martha you're not doing
this,
then Edward you ain't doing that,
Suzanne and you're not doing this,
Norman, Peter, Bartholun follow me you ain't
doing this right but in the smaller
setting he was able to spend the
individual time and minister
individually to people this is what
discipleship is about it's about that
intimacy with God it's about that
intimacy with one another as you reveal
the things on your heart and never feel
the things that God is dealing or gonna
speak to you or speak through you to
another intimacy another proof that
Jesus chose to disciple absolutely
everyone is the fact that Judas of
Iscariot who Jesus knew would betray him
he still chose to take him on board and
disciple him even though he seemed like
such a waste let me tell you this some
other men that I have invested time
following up in that have never made it
for God that I've tried and I've spent
time working and believing God that
they'll be saved and it all some known
to you think those things built me those
things built offers that witnessed it
those things built a multitude of people
you see sometimes we get into this
mindset that we should only work with
people when it's going to work out the
way that we want or when we see the
expected outcomes
we desire that isn't mine discipleship
was for everybody even for those that
were known that they may not make it but
you still try to see what would come
about from this so Judas of a scab it
was called to be a disciple of Jesus
even though jesus knew who's gonna
betray but I tell you this there's a
power for dynamic when people can see
that you're working with people because
you value all people devalue them as
precious and special regardless of what
they do or they're going to do but you
still give them the time of the day and
you still believe God for them it's
empower 'fl thing to minister to people
issues women have often asked me should
they be women's beside worships I'm
gonna kind of try and answer this by
explaining why men's discipleship suffer
men only and why there may or only with
it imagine you've got a male pastor
who's preaching the word but he's not
just preaching the word and men's
discipleship he's opening his whole life
up to you he's exposing his own personal
struggles as a man with his morality
with his decision process with his
thought process with the mistakes that
he's made he's actually going up onto a
pooping and exposing himself and then
opening them for questions so that
people could probe and understand what's
going on inside of his character that
makes him think and see the way that he
does it's a very intimate and a very
very private thing that a man does when
they take someone on to disciple them
when they begin to share their life and
the reason that preachers do this isn't
because they believe that they can
disciple a thousand people in the room
at one go through Minister side Bishop
but they believe that if they can expose
something if they can extend themselves
out and show the experiences and the
times and the challenges and the
questions and the wisdom that they've
gained and the heart and and the deeply
personal things this isn't just what the
Bible says here in the ministry this is
about a man exposing his own life
exposing the life of others men that
he's spoken to this is about sharing of
manhood so that other men can see what
makes a man tick but more than what
makes them tick what processes men need
to go through
what stages what emotions what battles
the in particular those men have been
through an over men are going to go
through in order to make Christ fully
formed in their life and it's always
presented in a male led arena for that
reason you don't you can't have a man
exposing very personal and very intimate
things about his manhood to a woman
that's not his wife it wouldn't be right
it would be wrong in the same things
true of a woman's beside worship however
obviously we don't have women preaching
in the church where I attend and so you
don't see we missus up we ship anywhere
in that sense from a pulpit however even
with the men's type worship and only
with a women's discipleship where you
have this coming together and this
speaking this coming together and this
fellowship in these coming together and
having intimate relationships menses our
bishops are done so that men can come
together the men will group together
that there were way for a day that they
can begin to speak they can begin to
share they begin to pray together
there's a time for it like Martha and
Mary Mary's made time for Jesus men so
side bishops get men away from work from
their children from their families so
that they have time as men to speak and
to fellowship and to share their lives
their experiences their struggles with
one another so that they can be
strengthened it isn't about just the
preaching it's about making up
opportunity for men to feel comfortable
in communicating these things now I've
often seen that women are far better at
coming together in twos or threes or
picking up the phone and sharing their
hearts their feelings and their emotions
and reflecting on what the Word of God
has said and what they should do but
it's not normally the case with men you
normally have to fight to get them to
talk so what you do is you bring them
together you say things you challenge
them and you let them go and have those
conversations
men's discipleship is so important we
recently seen massive problems in
youngsters particularly young boys and
going to church young boys and
maintaining and living for God and the
reason is because they have all these
expectations that can't be fulfilled
from just being
saved their needs to beat the cypher
ship there needs to be a venes to
express to learn to do to experience to
change who they are and to go and to go
out and to to experiment to try to
preach to minister to express and it
without discipleship without the leading
and the guiding of other men
how are these young boys ever gonna make
it how are they gonna have ever figure
out what their the destiny of their life
is what their will is if there's no
people around them there to encourage
them to continue to seek God encourage
them that when they don't know where to
go to just keep moving forward encourage
them to do something so God says stuff
or in some cases to tell them to stop
and to try and this offer direction and
see what God might get involved in we
have got to be very careful that we
don't just get people saved and leave
them to themselves Jesus believed in
discipleship so there are some
experiences I want to list down
specifically that I feel that every
believer and the every single believer I
can't stress it enough no man no woman
needs to be left behind with this I
believe every believer needs to have a
few of these experiences that I've just
written down on a bit of a notepad when
I think about my discipleship process so
the first thing is I learnt to pray from
being around of the disciples I heard
them pray I saw them play they made
hands on me and prayed God and believed
that I'd be filled with the Holy Ghost
I'm speaking the spirit they
discipleship is that process and without
discipleship chances are you're probably
not going to experience some of this it
was food discipleship that I first
learned how what to do when I went to go
and visit the sick when I went to go and
visit someone at a house it was a new
believer it was when I first learnt how
to take control and dominion over
situations that were demonic it was
where I first learnt so Messel against
the flesh and I was first challenged on
how to correctly wage war against my
flesh and deny myself it was food as I
push it that I learned these kind of
things
it was food aside worships that I
learned to give practical advice it was
through discipleship but I learned how
to take correction but not just the
correction how to give encouragement how
to
to receive encouragement and why
sometimes we need to have correction and
encouragement and how we need to balance
the two so not hurt and destroy people
it is through discipleship that I
learned how to use the Word of God not
as a sword to divide people apart and to
cut people up but to heal and to build
them up and to speak into lives destiny
and future envision you see discipleship
was a crucial aspect of my life and of
me I can't I can't stress that though I
got saved and I was doing well and I
attended church of my own accord once I
got saved of my own decision I felt like
God spoke to me it's really free
discipleship that I've seen the greatest
acceleration in my Christian walk and
what youngsters want is they want to run
before they can walk the only way that
they're ever gonna get to a place where
they're gonna be happy that they're
gonna have the joy and they're gonna be
useful the way that they want to be
useful is if we take them in and show
them how to make themself yourself we
show them from our own experiences only
fast-track Allah we give them advice and
we allow them to go through those
experiences for themselves as they're
learning so that they're engaged in this
Christian walk nobody young wants to be
a Christian by name only everybody wants
to be a disciple but they just don't
know it they want the joy they want
peace and happiness they want purpose
they want supernatural power they want
anointing they want understanding of the
Word of God they want the character to
be able to deny the flesh they want to
see change and impact on the world that
they're living in but they can't and so
they get frustrated and fizzle away
particularly young men book who
discipleship you have a chance to
wrestle back against this you've got to
make disciples now a lot of people
saying you know we got a study to show
yourself approved yes you do but that
isn't what discipleship is discipleship
isn't just the studying to show yourself
approved as a work man rightly dividing
the word of God discipleship is about
you building relationships with other
men and disciple in them and them decide
billing you and you gain underneath the
wing of your pasta or of a senior man
someone that's been around and that
knows the Christian life that's
experienced wings and you know what you
might come to them with something that
never never been
before but between the two of you that
you're gonna work it through together
discipleship is a place where you can
share your struggles and your successes
encouraging one another but ultimately
allowing Christ to be fully formed in
your life
I believe that discipleship is the most
important part of the church and that if
a youth group are meeting and they're
active and the youth groups growing but
there is no personal individual
discipleship you are letting them down
because you are failing to help them to
develop the character that they need to
make it for God I'm not saying that you
have to start people having fun but
there needs to be the personal
commitment to making sure people grow
into the strong able Christians able to
make decisions April to discern able to
know what to do in given situations that
really ought to be taught and learned
through discipleship men and women have
slightly different roles with regards to
ministry women have a ministry that's
completely exclusive to women that no
matter how much a man tried we can't
enter into record childbearing and
child-rearing rearing we can't
breastfeed we can't bear children we
can't give birth to the Living Young we
can't experience some of the things that
women have gone through God has made
them unique and special and that element
of their life and ministry should they
wish to go into that area of their
ministry is divine and that's a place
where only enough a woman could really
disciple a woman about those processes
and what it's like to go through that
there's a specific place where women
need to disciple women and men need to
disciple men equally men is a place when
it comes to the ministering of the Word
of God if they want to go on to be a
minister now I said it earlier
discipleship is needed whether you want
to preach or not whether you want to be
the leader of a church on the side mushy
peas for all men but if you want to go
into those sort of ministries you've got
to be discipled by a man about those
sort of issues a man that kids been
through it and that knows what the life
is the notice of struggles and the
battles that knows what the Word of God
says very well because that's what
you're going to be preaching and so
study to show yourself approved is
important but that doesn't replace the
cycle ship the two is completely
different and you need to do both if you
want to be a man of God leading Bible
studies rightly dividing the word Oh
encourage everyone to study to show
themselves approved but if you want to
be a preacher you need to be giving
yourself perfectly in that area of your
life and the only reason I'm mentioning
it is because I know a lot of people
think discipleship is for the practice
of building preachers it's not show
yourself approved and that extra
fervency in going that step further and
giving themselves is required if you
want to minister and help others in
their needs as a preacher so jesus spent
three and a half years disciple ii met
three and a half years poor the apostle
got saved and for three years he again
goes to the dark side of the world and
begins to learn what it is to walk out
this Christian life it's important that
we understand that discipleship is not
getting people to get past the test so
that they're ready to learn for the rest
of their life without advice
discipleship is an ongoing process but
after you've intensively got yourself
involved in discipleship and you
allowing people and you learn certain
things you then qualified to begin to
start disciple in coffers you're still
at the start for yourself this there is
someone over you but you're probably not
going to be as dependent upon them to
lead and guide you about certain things
that you've learned and so now they've
got freedom to take on up over man
you've got to be careful that we don't
forget that we also still need to be
disciples and ultimately we're all
disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ who
speaks to us but that is not an excuse
to cut yourself off from prophets and
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