TIME. >> HAVE A GREAT DAY.
>> APPRECIATE IT. LET'S TURNOVER TO SENATOR BERNIE
SANDERS OF VERMONT. HE'S NOT CONFLICTED ABOUT THE
REPUBLICAN HEALTH CARE BILL. HE SHOELDING RALLIES IN
PENNSYLVANIA, WEST VIRGINIA AND OHIO IN AN ATTEMPT TO GENERATE
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL AND SAYS IF IT PASSES THOUSANDS WILL DIE.
SENATOR SANDERS WITH ME NOW FROM COLUMBUS, OHIO.
WELCOME BACK, SIR. >> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, CHUCK.
>> I WANT TO FIRST ADDRESS THAT RHETORIC.
YOU TWEETED THE ISSUE OF SAYING YES YOU THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD DIE
AND THEN SENATOR HATCH RETWEETED AND SAID LET IT BE CLEAR THIS IS
NOT TRYING TO BE OVERLY DRAMATIC.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE IF REPUBLICAN HEALTH CARE BILL
BECOMES LAW. HATCH RETWEETED AND SAID THIS
BRIEF TIME WHEN WE WERE NOT ACCUSING THOSE WE DISAGREE WITH
OF MURDER WAS NICE WHILE IT LASTED.
ANY REGRET OF USING THE RHETORIC YOU USED.
>> CHUCK, CHUCK, WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL DOES IS
THROW 23 MILLION AMERICANS OFF OF HEALTH INSURANCE.
WHAT HARVARD UNIVERSITY, WHAT A PART OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY, A
SCIENTIST THERE DETERMINED IS WHEN YOU THROW 23 MILLION PEOPLE
OFF OF HEALTH INSURANCE, PEOPLE WITH CANCER, PEOPLE WITH HEART
DISEASE AND PEOPLE WITH DIABETES THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WOULD DIE.
I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY IT. THIS IS NOT ME.
THIS IS STUDY AFTER STUDY MAKING THIS POINT.
IT'S COMMON SENSE. IF YOU HAVE CANCER AND YOUR
INSURANCE IS TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU THERE IS A LIKELIHOOD YOU WILL
DIE AND CERTAINLY A LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WILL BECOME MUCH SICKER
THAN YOU ARE TODAY. THAT'S THE FACTS.
UNPLEASANT BUT IT'S TRUE AND SECOND OF ALL WHILE THEY THROW
23 MILLION PEOPLE OFF OF HEALTH INSURANCE AND DEFUND PLANNED
PARENTHOOD AND RAISE PREMIUMS FOR OLDER WORKERS, PEOPLE IN
THEIR 60s THEY SEE PREMIUMS THAT WILL BE 50 OR 75% HIGHER THEY
ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME $500 BILLION IN TAX BREAKS FOR THE
TOP 2% TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THE DRUG COMPANIES
IN ORDER TO GIVE TAX BREAKS TO BILLIONAIRES.
THAT'S WHAT THE ENTIRE DEBATE IS ABOUT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
BOTHERS ME 60% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IS
IN THIS HEALTH CARE BILL. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT
PROCESS. LOOK I THINK SENATOR JOHNSON
BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT I ASKED HIM ABOUT
WHICH IS THIS IDEA THAT OBAMACARE PASSED WITH JUST THE
DEMOCRATS. IF IT PASSES IT'S ONLY GOING TO
PASS JUST WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND NO LAW IS EVER SUSTAINABLE
IN THIS TOWN WHEN ONLY ONE PARTY HAS A PIECE OF IT.
WHEN ONLY ONE PARTY IS INVESTED IN IT'S SUCCESS.
IF ANOTHER PARTY IS INVESTED IN IT'S FAILURE SO MY QUESTION IS,
THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A MESS. IS THERE ANYWAY OF MIXING THIS
PROCESS IN NEXT WEEK? STOPPING IT, STARTING FROM
SCRATCH? IF THE REPUBLICANS SAY WE'LL GET
RID OF RECONCILIATION IF DEMOCRATS COME TO THE TABLE
WOULD YOU COME TO THE TABLE. >> WAIT A MINUTE.
PLEASE DON'T SAY COME TO THE TABLE.
WHAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE AND THAT'S WHAT SENATOR JOHNSON
SAID AND HE'S RIGHT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE-SIXTH
OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY. AN ISSUE THAT IMPACTS 2,300
MILLION AMERICANS. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE NOT
COME FORWARD. THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
HAS NOT COME FORWARD. THERE'S BEEN ZERO DEBATE.
ALL OF THIS IS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I HEAR YOU ON THAT.
I'M SAYING IF THERE IS, IF SENATOR JOHNSON GETS HIS WAY
WHICH IS HE WANTS TO DELAY THIS PROCESS AND DELAY THE VOTE AND
HAVE A PROCESS, HAVE A HEARING, SOUNDS AS IF HE WANTS THAT.
IF MITCH McCONNELL SAYS I'M GIVING UP RECONCILIATION BECAUSE
TRYING TO DO THIS ON A PARTISAN ONLY VOTE IS DAMAGING OVERALL,
AT THAT POINT ARE YOU OPEN TO SOME SORT OF BIPARTISAN
COMPROMISE? >> OF COURSE.
WELL, WE'RE OPEN TO LET'S HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN. SENATOR JOHNSON IS RIGHT.
THERE'S NO WAY IN GOD'S HEALTH THIS BILL SHOULD BE PASSED THIS
WEEK. PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S IN IT. PEOPLE IN VERMONT DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S IN IT. WE NEED A SERIOUS DISCUSSION AND
I'M CONFIDENT THAT EVERYONE WOULD WANT TO HOLD THAT
DISCUSSION. WE'RE THE ONLY MAJOR COUNTRY ON
EARTH NOT TO GUARENTEE HEALTH CARE TO ALL PEOPLE AS A RIGHT.
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT HAS PROBLEMS.
DEDUCTIBLES ARE TOO HIGH AND CO-PAYMENTS ARE TOO HIGH AND WE
SHOULD ADDRESS THAT BUT SOMETHING IS WRONG WHEN WE
REMAIN THE ONLY COUNTRY NOT TO GUARENTEE HEALTH CARE TO ALL
PEOPLE AS A RIGHT. I AM GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH A
MEDICARE FOR ALL SINGLE PAYER PROGRAM AND I THINK THAT'S THE
DIRECTION LONG-TERM WE SHOULD BE GOING.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT WHERE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS OVERALL.
YOU SAID YOU WANT TO GO THERE AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A
UNIFIED POSITION INSIDE THE LEFT UMBRELLA IN THIS COUNTRY.
I SAY LEFT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TECHNICALLY A MEMBER OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT WHY DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATS LOST THAT
SPECIAL ELECTION IN GEORGIA LAST WEEK?
>> IT'S MORE THAN THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS WE LOST THE SENATE, WE LOST THE U.S.
HOUSE. 2-THIRDS ARE CONTROLLED BY
REPUBLICANS. A THOUSAND SEATS HAVE BEEN LOST
TO REPUBLICANS AND STATE LEGISLATURES ALL OVER THIS
COUNTRY. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK, I
THINK THERE IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DEMORALIZATION ON THE PART OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WITH THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY. I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN
MANY CASES ARE SEEING THEMSELVES WORKING LONGER HOURS FOR LOWER
WAGES. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR KIDS
NOT BEING ABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE AND WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN TO THEM WHEN THEY'RE RETIRING AND SEEING ALL NEW
INCOME AND WEALTH GOING TO THE TOP 1%.
THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PAIN IN THIS COUNTRY AND PEOPLE
ARE SAYING DOES ANYBODY IN WASHINGTON KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON
IN MY LIFE? I'M 60 YEARS OF AGE AND I HAVE
NOTHING IN THE BANK AND I'M GOING TO BE RETIRING IN FIVE
YEARS OR $50,000 IN COLLEGE DEBT AND I CAN'T FIND A DESCENT JOB.
DO REPUBLICANS KNOW IT? DO THE DEMOCRATS KNOW IT AND WE
HAVE TO SAY WE'LL BE ON THE SIDE OF THE WORKING CLASS OF THIS
COUNTRY. STAND UP TO WALL STREET AND THE
DRUG COMPANIES THAT RIP US OFF EVERY DAY AND THE INSURANCE
COMPANIES AND WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT FOR AN AGENDA THAT MAKES
SENSE. >> I'LL LEAVE
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