ABIGAI BACK WITH YOU NOW AT
10:1
9:12.
AS YOU KNOW, OUR STATE IS
CONSISTENTLY ONE OF THE WORST
STATES WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
AND IN OKLAHOMA, ONE-THIRD OF
ALL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOMICIDES
ARE WITNESSED BY CHILDREN.
THIS MORNING, WE WANTED TO TALK
ABOUT THE LINE ALONG -- LIFELONG
AND CYCLICAL EFFECT THAT IT CAN
HAVE WHEN THEY BECOME ADULTS.
JOINED NOW BY TRICIA EVEREST AND
CAPTAIN JASON CLIFTON WITH THE
FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH US
TODAY.
SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC TO
DISCUSS.
NOT SOMETHING ENJOYABLE TO
DISCUSS BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO
TALK ABOUT.
I KNOW YOU ALL JUST WRAPPED UP A
CAMP, CAMP HOPE, OVER THE
WEEKEND.
TALK ABOUT NUMBERS, STATISTICS.
LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME WE
REPORTED OKLAHOMA WAS SIX THE
WORST IN T COUNTRY WHEN IT
CAME TO WOMEN KILLED BY MEN.
THIS MORNING, I LEARN THAT WE
ARE NOW FOURTH WORST IN THE
COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN
KILLED BY MEN, AND A LOT OF
TIMES CHILDREN ARE WITNESSING
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO STOP THIS
HORRIFIC TREND THAT IS GOING ON
IN OUR STATE?
TRICIA: FOR THE ONE THIRD THAT
HAVE WITNESSED, IF YOU HAVE TALK
TO THE CHILD, WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED, WHAT PEOPLE DON'T
KNOW IS THAT CHILDREN KNOW MORE
THAN I THINK THEY DO.
YES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN THE
ROOM, THEY GO BACK INTO THEIR
HIDING PLA, THEY PUT ON THEIR
AREA BONDS AND DO SOMETHING, BUT
THE EFFECT IS STILL THERE.
THAT NUMBER IS REALLY KIND OF
SKEWED.
IT IS A HARD TOPIC.
WE JUST FINISHED CAMP HOPE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE
CHILDREN WITNESSED, YOU CANNOT
TALK ABOUT WITH MOST PEOPLE.
MOST PARENTS WOULD NOT WANT TO
KNOW ALL OF THAT.
JASON, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
IT?
JASO WE SHOW CERTAIN
CHARACTERISTICS AND OFFENDERS,
YOU CAN MATCH UP WHAT IS
HAPPENING.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU
BREAK THE CYCLE.
THESE KIDS GROW UP IN HOMES
WHERE MOM AND DAD ARE FIGHTING
ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THEY GROW UP THINKING THAT IS
HOW RELATIONSHIPS WORK.
IT IS ABUSIVE AND IT DESTROYS
THE KIDS.
ABIGAIL: WHY IS OKLAHOMA SO LOW
ON THE LIST?
WHY HAVE WE GONE FROM SIX WORST
TO FOURTH WORST?
IS IT OUR PRISON SYSTEMS BEING
OVERCROWDED?
WHY IS OKLAHOMA SO AWFUL WHEN IT
COMES TO THIS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SITUATION?
TRICIA THE CONVERSATION, WE
HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT, WHERE WE
CAN LOOK AT THE WHOLE FAMILY AND
THE GENERATIONAL CHANGE.
AT THE FAMILY JUSTIC CENTER, WE
NOW HAVE CIVIL AND LEGAL AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT ALL WORKING TOGETHER
IN REAL TIME.
OUR PREVENTION IS A LOT SOONER
THAN IT HAS BEEN BEFORE.
WE REALLY HAVE A FOCUS ON THE
CHILDREN.
CAMP HOPE, WE STARTED LAST YEAR.
WE DID THAT EVEN BEFORE WE
OPENED UP OUR DOORS IN PALOMAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE
FAMILIAR, BUT THERE ARE THINGS
CALLED ADVERSE CHILDHOOD
EXPERIENCES.
AS JASON TALKED ABOUT
PREDICTABLE VIOLENCE, DEPENDING
ON THE NUMBER OF THINGS.
HAVE YOU WITNESSED VIOLENCE,
HAVE YOU BEEN ABUSED, DID YOU
FEEL YOU ARE NOT LOVED, WAS
SOMEWHAT INCARCERATED?
THESE THINGS CAN PREDICT.
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THE
TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT
EFFECT.
A CHILD WHO COULD BE ACTING OUT
TWO YEARS LATER AND GOES INTO A
SYSTEM IS REALLY JUST A VICTIM
OF ABUSE.
SO WE DO THESE SCORES.
THE NUMBER ONE COMMENT THING --
SOME OF THE KID THAT WE WERE
WITH, THEY WATCHED THEIR MOM BE
MURDERED, HORRIFIC THINGS.
THE NUMBER ONE THING IS THAT
THEY DID NOT FEEL LIKE ANYONE
PAID ATTENTION OR THAT ANYONE
LOVED THEM.
WE TAKE THEM AND W SEE WHERE
THEY ARE IN LIFE BEFORE AND
AFTER THE CAP, AND WE HAVE HAD A
REMARKABLE IMPROVEMENT IN OUR
SYSTEM OF CARE.
THE MORE WE CAN RECOGNIZE THAT,
THE MORE WE CAN BREAK THE CYCLE
AND CHANGE THE NUMBERS.
ABIGAIL: WE HAVE VIDEO FROM CAMP
HOPE.
I KNOW IT WRAPPED UP OVER THE
WEEKEND, BUT THESE ARE CHILDREN
WHO GREW UP IN HOMES OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE SOME OF THESE
CHILDREN HAD WITNESSED HOMICIDES
OF THEIR OWN PARENTS.
IT MAKES YOU EMOTIONAL TO THINK
ABOUT.
IN THE VIDEO, THEY WERE DOING
FUN EVENT'S, LIVING NORMAL KIDS
LIVES.
AS A POLICE CAPTAIN, WHEN YOU GO
TO THESE SCENES, WHEN YOU ARE
CALLED TO A DOMESTIC SITUATION,
AND THERE IS A KID IN THE HOME,
YOU ARE A PARENT, WHAT KIND OF
GRAVITY DOES THAT ADD TO THE
SITUATION?
JASO IT IS JUST UGLY, NO OTHER
WORD FOR IT.
AS A PARENT, YOU WANT TO PROTECT
YOUR CHILDREN FROM IT.
THAT IS WHY IT IS SO HARD TO
ADDRESS, IT IS IN THE HOME.
YOU FEEL FOR THESE KIDS.
FINALLY, WE HAVE THA
FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER DOING
SOMETHING, TAKING THEM OUT.
THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO GO
OUT AND BE KIDS, BE AROUND OTHER
KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED
IN THE SAME WAY.
IT MAKES ITS OWN COMMUNITY.
IT IS AN ONGOING PROGRAM.
ONCE WE BRING THESE KIDS INTO
CAMP HOPE, WE DO NOT LEAVE THEM
FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
YOU CANNOT FORGE THAT
RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT CONTINUING
ON.
EVERY MONTH WE HAVE REUNIONS
WHERE THEY COME BACK.
THEY SEE THE SAME PEOPLE, THEY
SEE THE GROWTH, ISSUES THEY ARE
HAVING, SO WE CAN CONTINUE ON
THAT PROCESS.
ABIGAIL: ARE THESE CHILDREN IN
OKLAHOMA CITY?
TRICIA: THESE ARE CHILDREN IN
OKLAHOMA CITY.
49 LAST YEAR.
WE HAD INCREASED THE AGE
RECENTLY.
ONE WE HAVE SIBLINGS, ONE WE
HAVE PEOPLE COMING BACK.
WE HAVE A CAMP IN TULSA.
WE CAN COMBINE THE SPACE AND
ACTIVITIES, BUT GENERALLY, WE
WANT TO KEEP IT REGIONAL SO WE
CAN KEEP UP THE TRANSPORTATION
AND THE OTHER THINGS FOR THE
FAMILIES.
WE HAD ONE CHILD LAST YEAR WHO
CAME OUT TO CAMP.
HE WAS FEELING, I HATE
EVERYBODY, I WANT TO KILL
EVERYONE.
WE HAD SOME PROFESSIONALS OUT
THERE AND THEY SAID, HE IS THE
ONE THAT WE NEED TO HUG.
IN TWO DAYS, THE SAME CHIL WAS
SELF-NAMED THE KITCHEN KID, THE
ONE WHO WOULD PICK UP ALL THE
PLATES.
LAST WEEK, WE WERE DOING SOME
HEALTH CHECKS AND I HAD NOTICED
THAT HIS NAME CHANGED.
HE HAD GOTTEN FOSTER PARENTS AND
HE HAD GOTTEN ADOPTED.
YOU JUST SEE, WE HAD PARENTS AND
GUARDIANS, FOSTER PARENTS COME
BACK.
ONE OF THEM SAID LAST YEAR, FOR
FO YEARS, THEY HAD NOT HEARD
THEIR SON LAUGH.
WHEN HE CAME BACK HOME FROM CAMP
HOPE, THEY COULD.
SO YOU ARE SEEING THINGS CHANGE.
ABIGAIL: HOPEFULLY BREAKING THE
CYCLE.
IN 10 YEARS, HOPEFULLY, WE WILL
NOT BE FORTH ON THAT LIST.
I WANT TO PUT UP THE INFORMATION
ABOUT THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER.
IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WATCHING
RIGH NOW, MORE THAN 30 AGENCIES
ARE HOUSED IN ONE BUILDING.
IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THAT IS A
VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
THAT IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO,
NEAR NORTHWEST 11TH AND HUDSON.
VERY IMPORTANT.
JUST GO THERE.
ALSO, TAKE YOUR CHILDREN.
LIKE YOU SAID, CAMP HOPE IS AN
ONGOING THING, NOT JUST A ONCE A
YEAR THING.
VERY IMPORTANT.
UNFORTUNATELY, MORE IMPORTANT IN
OKLAHOMA THAN OTHER STATES
BECAUSE THE TREND IS NOT WHERE
IT NEEDS TO BE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE
CHANGING LIVES.
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