SOLEDAD: IT IS NEWS SOME WOULD
CALL A DECISION HEARD AROUND THE
WORL
PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO HAS
PREVIOUSLY CALLED GLOBAL WARMING
"A HOAX," ANNOUNCES HIS DECISION
ON U.S. PARTICIPATION IN THE
PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: THE UNITE
STATES WILL WITHDRAW FROM TH
PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD.
SOLEDAD: JUST WHAT ARE WE
LEAVING BEHIND
THE PARIS AGREEMENT IS A GLOBAL
PACT TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE,
BACKED BY NEARLY 200 COUNTRIES.
ITS GOAL IS TO LIMIT PLANETARY
WARMING BY SLASHING CARBON
DIOXIDE AND OTHER EMISSIONS.
IT INCLUDES A U.S. PLEDGE
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE EMISSIONS
BY 2025.
HUNDREDS OF AMERICAN BUSINESSES
OPPOSE WITHDRAWAL.
CHEVRON AND EXXON MOBI
MICROSOFT, APPLE, STARBUCKS, THE
GAP, AND OTHERS ARGUE TH
AGREEMENT GENERATES JOBS, LIMITS
ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE, AND KEEPS
AMERICA'S PLACE ON THE GLOBAL
STAGE.
SARAH LADISLAW IS DIRECTOR OF
THE ENERGY AND NATIONAL SECURITY
PROGRAM AT THE CENTER FOR
STRATEGIC AND INTERNATIONAL
STUDIES.
SHE WAS AT THE U.S. ENERGY
DEPARTMENT DURING THE GEORGE W.
BUSH ADMINISTRATION.
IT IS NICE TO SEE YOU.
SARAH LADISLAW: THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME.
SOLEDAD: I MENTIONED THAT ARE
HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES, AND ALSO
EVEN PEOPLE WITHIN PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S OWN GROUP, WHO AR
AGAINST WHAT HE HAS SAID OFTEN
-- THAT HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN
CLIMATE CHANGE.
HE SAYS VERSIONS OF, "GIVE ME A
BREAK" ABOUT IT OR CHINA
IS MANIPULATING IT, ESSENTIALLY.
HOW UNUSUAL IS THAT, THESE
BUSINESSES ARE ACTUALLY TAKING
THE LEAD IN SOMETHING OF THI
MAGNITUDE ON A GLOBAL STAGE?
SARAH LADISLAW: I THINK ONE OF
THE THINGS YOU FIND THAT IS
REALLY INTERESTING IS NOW
COMPANIES HAVE SAID WE THINK
THAT THE LONG-TERM TREND IN THE
GLOBAL ECONOMY IS TOWARD LOWER
CARBON ENERGY, AND WE DON'T WANT
TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT SOME CLEAR SIGNALS SO W
CAN PREPARE FOR THAT FUTURE, AND
IT IS A PART OF THEIR STRATEGY.
SOLEDAD: ANY WITHDRAWAL IS
REALLY A 2019 WITHDRAWAL.
SARAH LADISLAW: YEAH, SO I THINK
THAT IS AN OFTEN MISSED POINT.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP,
WHICH IS THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN
SIGNAL WHATEVER THEY WANT RIGHT
NOW, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER
IS IN THE AGREEMENT IT TAKES
LONG TIME TO EXECUTE ON THAT
WITHDRAWAL.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING.
IT COULD GIVE PEOPLE SOME TIME
TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION
LONG PAST A DECISION OR
COUNTER-DECISION OR WHATEVER T
CASE MIGHT BE THAT IS MADE, TO
CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT ACTUALLY
PULLING OUT OF THE AGREEMENT IS
THE LONG-TERM INTEREST OF THE
UNITED STATES.
SOLEDAD: IF THE U.S. LOSES TH
SEAT AT THE TABLE, OR WALKS AWAY
FULLY FROM THE SEAT AT THE
TABLE, CAN OTHERS STEP UP AND DO
IT WITHOUT THE U.S.?
SARAH LADISLAW: I THINK IF THE
U.S. PULLS BACK, THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE AGREEMENT,
WHICH THE GOAL IS TO LIMIT
EMISSIONS, TO PREPARE THE WORLD
FOR A CHANGE IN CLIMATE, TO MOVE
FINANCING TO COUNTRIES FOR WHICH
CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EXISTENTI
THREAT, THAT THOSE EFFORTS WILL
BE HARMED WITHOUT U.S.
LEADERSHIP AT THE TABLE.
SOLEDAD: WE ALSO LOSE -- "WE"
BEING THE UNITED STATES -- ALSO
LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF
THESE GREEN JOBS THAT ARE GOING
TO BE CREATE
SARAH LADISLAW: ABSOLUTELY.
WHEN YOU THINK ECONOMI
LEADERSHIP, MOST COUNTRIES
AROUND THE WORLD ARE TRYING TO
SKATE TO WHERE THE PUCK IS, NOT
BE PROTECTIONIST ABOUT THEIR
ECONOMIES AND TRY TO HOLD ONTO
THINGS THE WAY THAT THEY USED TO
BE.
I THINK THERE IS AN IDEA THA
BECAUSE THERE IS REAL, SOCIAL
AND ECONOMIC MOBILITY ISSUES IN
THIS COUNTRY AND THIS
ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO
SPEAK TO THEM, THAT YOU HAVE T
DO THAT BY ROLLING BACK THE
CLOCK AND BRINGING BACK
INDUSTRIES THAT ARE NOT
COMPETITIVE AS THEY ONCE WERE.
WHEN POINT IN FACT, THE UNITED
STATES HAS HUGE ADVANTAGES WHEN
IT COMES TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF
DIFFERENT THINGS, WHETHER IT IS
RENEWABLE ENERGY, WHETHER IT IS
STORAGE, WHETHER IT IS THE DATA
THAT WILL FEED INTO THESE NEW
ENERGY ECONOMIES.
SO, I THINK WE DO NEED TO THINK
ABOUT WHAT THE AGREEMENT
ACTUALLY BRINGS TO THE TABLE IN
CREATING COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGES
FOR THE U.S. WHILE - OH, BY THE
WAY -- DOING SOMETHING IMPORTANT
LIKE DEALING WITH CLIMATE


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