hi it's Lyn Leahz and you're watching
prophecy in the news and I have a couple
of extra special guests today Carl
Gallup's and messianic rabbi Zev Porat
and you guys thank you so much for
joining us today on prophecy in the news
it's great to have you Lyn thank you
it's awesome to be with you and we're
honored Thank You Lyn it's an honor and
blessing to be here it is awesome to
have you to finally meet you in person
and you've come all the way from Israel
to be here and you guys had one heck of
a flight that's for sure yeah yeah we've
been all over the nation this years I
mean this this weekend yeah getting into
Oklahoma City I don't think you can get
here from anywhere else in the United
States getting after what you went
through I hope so because I wanna go
there's no typical bad weather coming
across the nation and canceled flights
and delayed flights but we're here it's
great to be here well those of you who
may not know I'm sure most of you
watching do already but Carl gallops is
a former Florida law enforcement officer
and you're also in the Amazon top 60 as
a best-selling author
yeah and he has got numerous
best-selling books but his one that is
out right now is called gods of ground
zero and you can visit cartlett Carl
Gallup's calm and then Zev many of you
probably already know who he is but for
those of you don't
he is a messianic rabbi Messianic Jewish
rabbi and his website is Messiah of
Israel ministries org and he also was a
member of the Israel Defense Forces so
thank you for joining us today and I
can't wait to hear what both of you have
to share it's gonna be an exciting show
thanks looking forward to it
well before we start about your book
there's a new project that you guys are
working on and it's gonna be huge so I
wanted to find out a little bit more
about that and share it with the viewers
thanks I appreciate it
no we're very blessed to
had a long ministry relationship
together for four years now and and we
still dev is is based in Tel Aviv Israel
so but he does come to the States and
we've done prophecy conferences together
a lot of media together and preaching
and teaching together and so anyway our
publisher the publisher is agreed for
the two of us to write a new book that's
coming out should come out the first of
2019 in that first quarter and we're
really pumped about this project I'm so
sorry that I can't give many details
about it right now but the two of us
working on this together and it's my
understanding that a film crew has
already been employed and lined up and
we're supposed to be in Israel together
in the next few months for several weeks
probably filming a documentary about the
whole topic that the book will also be
about so it should include the book and
the documentary and so we're very
excited about that and as soon as we're
released to give more details about what
it's all about then I'll be glad to do
that with your audience but but for
right now I can just say it should be
pretty earth-shattering spiritually and
it has a lot to do with what's going on
in the world and prophecy and in Israel
and Jerusalem and and connections that
he and I've made years ago
definitely it's gonna shock the Western
world it's gonna shock Israel it's gonna
shock the Orthodox it's going to be an
eye-opener for Christians to understand
more about Israel and how to pray for
Israel and it's going to be an
eye-opener for the Jews in Israel and
around the world that don't believe in
Jesus don't believe in Yeshua it's going
to be
we can't talk what it's gonna be good
yeah yeah I think so I mean I'm very
excited about it it's gonna be huge
I know if it involves both you guys and
Jesus it's gonna be you thank you but
it's all in the hands of the Lord all
praise to the Lord but thank you for
your kind words yeah and those of you
watching already tried to pump them for
information about this but I can't wait
to find out so you guys have to come
back we'd have to turn you in to the
Secret Service if we told you so you
know we're trying to protect you you
could tell me if any drive
part of the most like yeah so you guys
are gonna have to come back to tell us
about that good oh I look forward to it
can't wait so real quick before we
really get into the Nitty Gritty of the
book gods of ground is zero why don't
you go ahead and just give like a you
know this summary what it's about
thanks I'll start it off and and I know
Zev can weigh in on it because the very
title itself is a little
thought-provoking maybe even provocative
but but first of all let's just deal
with the term gods because it's gods of
ground zero and no it's not about New
York City 9/11 ground zero we hear that
you know the term ground zero it means
the foundational unprecedented starting
place for something major that has
happened that's why we call 911 ground
zero I'll get back to that in a moment
but the term gods is what a lot of
people they look at that name woods
what's he talking about it's a very very
common biblical word in the Hebrew as a
matter of fact Genesis 1:1 begins in the
beginning God created the heavens and
earth it's in the singular but the word
there in Hebrew is Elohim you know
Elohim and and so anytime you hear a
hebrew word ending an IM or m you know
elohim usually that's a plural it's kind
of like in english if a word ends in S
or ES usually it's a plural however we
have English words I'll demonstrate in a
moment that matched this particular
Hebrew word where it can be either
singular or plural depending upon the
context Elohim is like that now in the
beginning Elohim created the heavens and
the earth you think that it might say in
the beginning Yahweh created the heavens
and the earth that that term is used
some 7,000 times for the name of God or
Yehovah or Jehovah however people put
the vowel sounds in there but but but
the tetragrammaton the yud hey WAW hey
you hey vive hey that's 7,000 times
Elohim is used to three thousand times
for the name of God several thousand
other times in the plural as God's
little G s so it's like the word dear if
I simply said look at
dear that's all I said you wouldn't know
until you had more context did I just
see one dear standing in a field or have
I just seen a whole herd of deer look at
the deer what do I mean now if I said
look at that deer then we know because
of the qualifying word if I said look at
those deer or look at that herd of deer
okay now we know we've got the context
that word Elohim is so super important
it's so rich
we could do a whole show on that alone
but the bottom line is it begins in the
beginning God created then he said let
there be light he said he said so we
know it's talking about God the Creator
okay so note the term gods doesn't mean
a pantheon of equal gods it's not some
Greek mythology where it's used in the
other passages of scripture it's usually
translated into English as angels or
divine beings it speaks of the realm of
the divine realm the divine Council of
God the divine realm of God and so I'll
give you an example in Psalm 82 and I'm
paraphrasing it but it because different
English translations have it differently
but but it basically translates to this
into English and God sits enthroned
among the gods and he says to them have
I not called you gods now the context is
there's a lot of gods
all right then what it says in the
Hebrew is Elohim sits enthroned among
the Elohim and he says have I not called
you Elohim Ephesians chapter 3 it says
that God is our Father and from him his
family in heaven and on earth derives
our name why because we're created in
His image we are in his image so when he
calls them gods in English that's where
a little you know put off by that
because we're thinking he's but he's
speaking to his family like I speak to
my family by I give them my last name I
give them something of me and and and
and so God is saying God capital e
Elohim is city seated among the Elohim
little e the angels the divine realm in
his this have I not called you by my
name have I not called you and then in
Psalm 82 he gets on to them but
especially the ones that are
that are falling and rebelling he gets
onto them and he basically says I'm
gonna judge you I called you by my name
and you're disobeying anyway so gods
it's speaking of the divine realm the
cosmic war that's going on in the world
right now the book starts with the
Garden of Eden it goes to the book of
Revelation it makes the connection
between all of that and Israel and
Jerusalem in powerful ways and not
pulling this stuff out of my back pocket
I've been teaching preaching studying
this for years backing it up with people
like Zev who speaks Hebrew as his first
language backing it up with dozens of
scholarly attestations and I make those
connections to show people this life
that we're living is so much bigger than
we understand what God is doing is so
much bigger than we understand that
God's speaks of the cosmic warfare
Satan's agenda to seize what was the
Garden of Eden in the beginning centered
now upon Israel and Jerusalem that's why
there's so much in the news always has
been about Israel Jerusalem Middle East
the area of Palestine as the Romans
called it that's what all of this is
about and it's all moving to the
restoration of all things so ground zero
is Garden of Eden or if you'd like to
speak of it in today's terminology Mount
Zion Temple Mount Jerusalem Israel
garden
I mean Ground Zero gods of Ground Zero
it's all moving to that think of Jesus
last week where did he go Jerusalem
where did he spend every night Mount of
Olives where did he spend every day
Temple Mount where did he go to pray the
Garden of Gethsemane reversing the curse
of the Garden of Eden in the Garden of
Eden
Satan Adam and Eve did this to God and
said not your will mine
Jesus knelt right there at the foot of
the Mount of Olives and says not my will
and the flesh as a man but yours my
father he reversed the curse delivers
himself to the cross where Jerusalem
rises from the dead where Jerusalem
where's he been teaching all week
Jerusalem where's he been sleeping every
night Mount of Olives where does he
ascend into heaven
Mount of Olives Jerusalem where's he
coming
back again to set his foot Mount of
Olives Jerusalem what's he gonna do
there he's gonna judge the angels and
we're gonna judge angels with him Paul
says that to the Church of corn said
don't you know you're gonna judge angels
in the last day
we're from the Mount of Assembly where
Jerusalem don't you know you're gonna
judge the nation's he says John says
don't you know you will rule and reign
with Jesus Christ at the end of this
that's why Paul said it's so much bigger
your mind can't conceive your eyes never
seen your ears never heard what lies
ahead for those that know and love the
Lord so the point is in this book I make
the connection and I just make the point
it all started in the Garden of Eden
it's why you me you all of us are in the
mess we're in
other than the blood of Jesus and the
Holy Spirit we would be a big pile of
mess and it explains why the all seven
billion people on the planet are in a
mess it explains the headlines of all
the filth and perversion and war and
disease and crime and corruption and all
of everything it explains everything
explains why all the focus is on the
Temple Mount
different nations trying to seize it it
explains why the Book of Ezekiel 3839
talks about in the last days coalition
of Nations are gonna join to come we're
against Jerusalem against Israel Jesus
said when you see the armies of the
nation's surrounding Jerusalem you'll
know the time is near Joel says when you
see the armies of Jerusalem of the
nation's surrounding Jerusalem
does that make sense the gods of Ground
Zero started in the garden culminates in
Jerusalem that's what the story of the
whole Bible is about it's about Jesus
reclaiming what was spit upon by Satan
and by Satan trying to say no this is
mine and Jesus says it's mine I'm the
winner
I'm the Lord I'm the king of kings and
Lord of lords and it ties everything
together in the Bible it makes complete
sense of the biblical story and it makes
complete sense of our own lives and the
times we're living in does that does
that make sense
in carlin yeah if you think about the
Ministry of Yeshua of Jesus not my will
be done but your will be done or may
your will be done on earth as
is in heaven what's he speaking about
that's really speaking about bringing
the two to bring in the two together so
you can see that all through the
ministry of yeshua everything started in
Israel it's going to end in Israel yes
Yeshua departed from the mount of all
he's returning to the Mount of Olives
the Bible says in fact Jesus Yeshua when
he's told the Pharisees in the book of
John I am the light of the world there
was a reason why he said that the
Pharisees understood that the glory of
the Lord departed from the temple which
is eastward pointing them out of Olives
they're waiting for the glory to return
and Jesus tells them right there in the
temple on Solomon's porch which is
pointing East would I am the light of
the world and I will come by and I will
come quarry of the light of the Lord
will be restored they just didn't see
that the glory is right there with them
as a foreshadow and you know the amazing
thing about this limb is that when God I
think of this just to show you how it
all connects when the children of Israel
were in captivity in Egypt and he
brought them out where did he tell him
he was gonna take them well we say take
him to the promised land
here's what he said I'm gonna take you
to the place where I have put my name
and then I'm gonna paraphrase but
basically then he says as he moves
through he says and when we get there
this is where I'm gonna fellowship with
you
that was actually culminated not only
with the tabernacle but it was
eventually culminated with the temple
built by Solomon at the instructions of
God but where was it built on the amount
of on the Mount of Assembly on God's
Mountain where Zion what was it meant
for to replicate with us and the sinful
dimension because he the perfect
dimension even still exists it's guarded
by the cherubim in another dimension of
reality and we can talk about that
sounds freaky to people oh now you're
talking science fiction oh no this is
real in our own world there are examples
of it that I'll give that I'll give
illustrations that's right we're in the
Bible I mean you're always proving how
when you talk about stuff and I love
that you do this you always take
everybody back to the bible scripture
them exactly what is that thank you
yeah absolutely so the point is though
when the temple was built he says this
is here's where my name is see God
didn't live it doesn't live in a temple
Bible is clear about that but the temple
was there to replicate in our fallen
the restoration of the fellowship of
Eden that's on its way so now with the
temple of course it was all about Jesus
because he's the ultimate temple he's
the ultimate representation of
fellowship with God everything about the
temple was about Jesus but in order to
have fellowship with God on Mount Zion
in the days of the temple what you have
to do you had to have the priests there
had to be sacrifices
the priest has to be sanctified the
people have to be sanctified the blood
of the lambs have to be spilled it has
to be taken into the holy place and then
there's fellowship all of that was
indicating God says that's where I put
my name that's where it's been from the
beginning I created Eden to fellowship
heaven and earth with man but it was
ruined it was spoiled and so I sealed it
off but in the meantime here's an
earthly copy of the heavenly reality by
the way the whole book of Hebrews is
written about the earthly copy of the
heavenly reality of the restored Eden
it's on the way when he said a moment
ago about the prayer about thy will be
done on earth as it is in heaven
bringing the two together
Ephesians 1:19 says this and we know
what the will of God is because he has
revealed it to us he is in the process
of bringing everything in heaven
everything on earth together under one
head Jesus Christ see that day is coming
that's what the whole story of the Bible
is about started in the Garden of Eden
we had that divine fellowship we had
that divine nature now when I say divine
nature I'm not saying we're gods but we
were not supposed to die we were
supposed to have direct access to the
throne of God Adam and Eve had that they
sold it out they sold it out and we lost
Peter says in 2nd Peter chapter 1 verse
4 he says but now your divine nature
will be restored having escaped the
corruption that's in this world through
epithelia the Bible says the evil
desires or lust or whatever we can talk
about that later but he says that he
says so what's everything moving towards
the Garden of Eden corrupted everything
but your divine nature is going to be
restored at the end I'm telling you if
if you understand the connections that I
make in God's of Ground Zero then
everything makes sense Ephesians 1
heaven and earth together Ephesians
three have I not called you by my name
you say what God does God call us gods
actually he does John chapter 1 in the
beginning was the word were with God
word and in the Word was God nothing
that was made was made without him then
you keep coming down chapter 2 verse 12
it says and the word became flesh and
dwelt among us and we beheld his glory
the only begotten of the Father and then
it goes on and to all who called upon
him to them he gave the right to be
called in in the Hebrew it says Benet
Elohim the sons of God we are called
sons of God you know what the angels are
called
in the book of Job sons of God Bonet
eloheem eloheem hear that last name
Elohim the angels are called Benet
eloheem and humans who are under the
blood of Jesus are called in God's sight
Benet eloheem we have the right to be
called Benet eloheem when we're under
the blood of Jesus I mean at once you
get this the whole Word of God comes
alive and then when you sit back and
watch the news you say why are the
nations hating on Israel and hating on
Jerusalem and hating on you know this
whole concept of the Christian Church
and and and and the people have got the
Jews and Israel restored it's because
Satan's going out of his mind with
Israel being in the land that's proof
that there's only one God God says when
I bring them back this will prove to the
nations that I am the lord and beside me
there is no other God I can speak on
this all day go ahead now it's great
Satan was going crazy all through the
ministry of yeshua as well we see the
same thing he knows that god's name is
written on jerusalem he knows that it's
ground zero he knows it's gonna and he
knows where it began and he knows where
it began he knows where it's gonna and
he knows his days are numbered he was
trying to stop the gospel he always had
he told Yeshua can you tell your
disciples to be quiet and you schewe
turns to him and he says even if I do
the very rocks will cry out my name
because his name is written on Jerusalem
and the only capital in the world the
only capital in the world ordained by
the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob in
Jerusalem
in fact I've got a whole chapter on that
showing how he has literally put his
name there so when when Jesus said that
he meant that spiritually but he also
meant it literally this is there are
amazing revelations in this book and
again none of its pulled out of my back
pocket or just out of some dream I had
or a bad Pizza I ate one night and went
to sleep no no this is pulled out of
decades of biblical research I have an
advanced degrees and Hebrew and Greek
the Zeff speaks at all his first
language he knows all the Hebrew
foundations behind it and so in fact he
helped me a lot in this I bounced a lot
of stuff off of him as I wrote the book
well I just want to remind those of you
out there get yourself a copy of this
book I mean there's so much in it that
is just when I say mind-blowing I mean
it and we aren't gonna have time to talk
about all that so you want to get
yourself a copy the information the 800
number is on the screen and order this
it's good and the way that Carl writes
these things is just in a way that
everybody can understand and I know
every time I read your books Carl I just
I just sit there and I just can't put it
down so those of you out there go to
prophecy in the news.com get a copy of
the book and you have it divided into
four different parts and part one is the
primordial yeah and if you could just
basically penny capsules
yeah the synopsis of the primordial and
everything that yeah I think we've got
three or four more minutes of the
program so I'll do a very quick synopsis
but the bottom line is primordial as
your audience knows means all the way
back to the beginning to the most
ancient of times so I go all the way
back but the very first chapter is a
chapter it's called of angels and Men
and it's an experience from my own life
a first-hand experience of an angelic
encounter and I know that sounds
sensational but this was witnessed and I
mean my whole church knows about it and
everything so but it's an amazing story
and the whole punchline of that first
chapter is to tell the story so people
can see oh my gosh this stuff really
still happens
and then to say and this is how it was
meant to be forever that's why the
Garden of Eden was created for the
angelic and for the human to interact
and to be together worshiping the Lord
gleaning from him doing whatever else
around the universe and cosmos he wanted
to do but we we gave up our divine right
so then I the next chapter and this is
very important and I'm sure we're out of
time but I just make this point we're
talking about different dimensions of
reality when we talk about heaven or
spiritual things that's that little fat
Greek baby playing a harp on a cloud and
all this ethereal smoky stuff
no it's reality it's it's flesh and
blood but Paul says in Corinthians but a
different kind of flesh and blood it's
like when Jesus came out of the great
alive he was still flesh and blood he
was recognizable as a human but he was
really but he was radiant and he was
immortal he was showing his divine
nature and he says now you see because I
live and what he meant was like this you
can live also like this so so here's an
example the creatures at the deepest
bottom of the ocean they have no idea
they're miles deep
five miles deep in some places they have
no idea if they could make it through
the darkness five miles up five miles
next time you go in an airplane you get
up 25,000 feet look down that's how deep
the oceans are there five miles up but
if they could come through and break
through the surface and if somehow they
could become a human and come on land
they would see there are seven billion
human beings that lived around them all
twenty-five million species of life and
then they look up and they see the son
of the moon and the stars and then if
they could go into space that goes on
forever and ever the fish at the bottom
of the ocean have no idea two dimensions
of reality living side-by-side one of
them doesn't even know the other one's
there
the Word of God says there's another
whole dimension of reality it's the
heavenly realm and the demonic realm is
a part of the Prince of the power of the
air so God's Word is telling us look
what we're living is awesome it's
beautiful it's a gift from God but it's
so much bigger than that God's doing
something way bigger than us sitting in
church
on the Sunday morning shaking the
preachers hands and saying I got a
ticket to heaven it's way bigger than
that and gods of ground zero punches
that yeah like how you explained that
using you know the ocean life has no
concept idea or anything about us and in
the same sense that's like us you know
we're on our own big huge ocean so to
speak and there's a whole another world
whole nother they don't set us all ten
thousand times ten thousand angels
surrounding his throne yeah that we
can't see we don't know about but we can
feel it in our spirit in our heart
oftentimes and that's yeah it's just an
amazing thing you know we can just feel
the Lord in his presence stuff you know
before we end the show I'd like to give
you a chance real quick you know what do
you think of some of the things Carl is
saying here and and what's on your mind
I think the book is a one new man book I
think it's important for the Messianic
Jews the Christians around the world to
read the book to understand the endtime
prophecies to understand where we are
because really I mean I think that the
Gospels been been tampered with with by
the devil I I have to say those words
been hammered with weather deliberately
or not people don't know they know this
book is an ice breaker it's important
for me as an Israeli that my first
language my mother tongue is Hebrew when
I read it I mean it's it brings the
Bible to life it brings the Word of God
to life the connection with the Old
Testament the New Testament the Ministry
of you sure you see everything where it
started where it's going to end it's
it's mind-blowing that's what it is and
and you it's it's much more than
mind-blowing it's an a powerful tool to
learn and to understand what times we're
living in right now how to be prepared
to be the bride of Jesus of Yeshua
because he's coming back and he's coming
back for those who are ready this
prepares you thanks God's of Ground Zero
it's what life is about
it's what heaven is about it's what the
restitution of all things is about
started in the garden ends in Jerusalem
everything in between is God's story and
we're living in the middle of it and
ecclesiastical 1-9 is clear everything
that was will happen again that's what
it's talking about everything that was
will happen again
yes and I don't know how any of you out
there listening after hearing just a
little bit that Carl and Zev share just
a little bit and trust me there's just a
little bit could not possibly want to
get this book so written in a way that
everybody can understand you know he
doesn't use it's not rocket science no
no I write it for everybody in the pew I
encourage everyone out there to get a
copy of this book the information is on
the screen for you to make it easy but
after hearing a little bit that Carl
here has shared as well as Duff I can't
imagine that you wouldn't want to get
this book it is loaded with information
that is mind-blowing is I've put it
earth-shaking get a copy of this book
and it is gonna blow your mind and open
your eyes and you guys thank you so much
for coming to the studio today and for
sharing the information about this book
I'm so excited I know those of you out
there listening must be excited too
thank you so much and thank you for that
thank you thank you and God bless you
and for those of you out there watching
remember that prophecy in the news is
the place to be for prophecy and keep
looking up
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