I'm gonna read two testimonies
One is of a
wife and
The other will be the husband of the wife
This will be the testimony of Kay Dararovic of it
Gonna have some commentary after I read these because there are two very very special people that God
brought into my life a number of years ago and
It's noteworthy to just share a little bit of what went on behind the scenes that
People wouldn't know otherwise, so let's read Kay's testimony here
It's time to let me live or let me die. I
Was diagnosed as having cancer on my female organs
To combat the cancer eating away at my insides
My doctor decided to give me a gold radium treatment as it turned out. I was given too much gold radium
The results were burned intestines kidneys stomach and other internal organs
The day came when I got so bad that a priest came and gave me my last rites
because the doctors weren't certain I was going
to live
Through endless days and nights of suffering through agony beyond what words can describe
Through all the surgeries and experimentation performed on me to keep me going
The talk the doctor finally said one day
We've done all we can do for you
We're going to let you go home and die in. Peace
They closed up my stomach and prepared me so I could go home to die
But just before I left the hospital they put me in a wheelchair and willed me down to a little chapel in the hospital I
Wanted to have communion one last time
Inside the little chapel, I began to silently under my fate. What was it like to die?
Would I be able to see my father and mother on the other side
Would my suffering be over through all eternity?
Or would that just mark the beginning of more suffering to come?
As I prepared myself to receive the wafer and the wine
Symbol of the symbolism of what I was about to do grew significantly
Significantly important do this in remembrance of me words of Jesus
Those were the thoughts that echoed through my mind as I remembered those words spoken by him as I was taught in my catechism
class in an early age
That moment I felt a oneness with the one Holy Communion is all about
Don't ask me how perhaps it was because as Jesus knew it was about
His time to go to death so that I soon go to death but what would happen afterwards I
Place the wafer on my trembling lips and let it dissolve slowly on my tongue
The wine I knew was symbolic of his shed blood the blood. I had been told as a little girl
That was shed for mankind and me on the cross a tip the container and pause momentarily
Wondering if this would be my last communion ever yes, of course it would be
Tears started welling up inside me as I realized this would never happen again
Then I went home the
Doctor instructed my husband to feed me with liquid food every half hour the rest of my days
He told him to never let me have solid food again
At home I lived with the Machine and
the bottle that pulled the pus out of my stomach I
Was dying slowly. It was only a matter of time
a devout Christian friend of mine
Intimately aware of my situation
Began trying to encourage me to watch Christian television. I
Really wasn't interested but to pacify her I told her I would a
Upon her constant prompting I finally found the station. She suggested I watch
When I tuned into that station
Pat robertson was talking and was going to start praying for people watching the program
He said that he said it didn't matter what the problem was quote if it's spiritual physical mental or whatever. It makes no difference
We're gonna pray now
Put your hands next to whatever you want healed and just believe with me
Just believe he said
When he said just believe it was so powerful it was like a fist slammed deep into my heart I
Thought no one is watching
No one would know
I'm gonna try you God what have I got to lose?
Then I began to talk outright with God I got testy with him ashamed as I now
Admit to it. Okay. We'll see God
If you're like - God I used to believe in when I was a little girl. Let's say
Let's see what you can do
Let me live or let me die
and I meant every word I said I
Laid my hands on my stomach and repeated the prayer
Then something inside of me began to happen my goodness. I took note of how well I suddenly felt I
Grew keenly aware that a heavy cloud had been removed from me. I
Realized I was light as a feather
Like the whole world had been on me moments
Before and now I was free from it. I wanted to cry and I wanted to laugh at this time
That night I went to sleep with a piece of God inside me it was like he rocked me to sleep in his loving arms
The next morning, I woke up like I had done so many times before
next to me was the little of the bottle next to me was a bottle to collect the pus that
Would need to drain during the hours of the night
But that morning no pus the bottle was empty
The next thing that happened maybe hard for some to believe a
Voice inside of me a
Distinct voice spoke saying these words. Look at your tummy
Now I hated to look at my tummy it was ugly and gross
It was cut up so bad and scarred and mutilated and bloody
That I absolutely abhor looking at it
But
Being obedient to the strange voice. I slowly opened my housecoat and
cautiously peeked inside
At that moment I also wanted to know whose voice this was speaking to me from inside
It was a different voice
One I had never heard
And I said out loud
Who is it speaking?
Who's talking to me?
At the same time I forced myself to look at my tummy
To my utter amazement I could see the skin had healed over my bleeding wounds
And then I heard the voice speaking to me again. I
Have healed you and you will never break open again
At that moment I knew it was a voice of the Holy Spirit the voice of God speaking to me
In three days I was totally healed
My stomach was never to break open again
God healed me physically and more importantly I
Was starting to be healed spiritually
That was over 40 years ago
since that time I have allowed the Lord to not only be my savior, but also my Lord I
Believe God allowed me to be healed so I could tell others about him
And I can't thank him enough for giving me numerous opportunities to do. So I
Do hope this story has blessed you and most importantly of all if you haven't made peace with God our Father
through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ the Son I
Encourage you to do so
Wow
Now we're gonna hear
The testimony of her husband a part of his testimony
His name is Jacob the rock event. I
Would commit suicide
Why?
Because right from the very beginning of my marriage I had serious problems
My wife became ill the very first year of our marriage which what brought great disappointment and unhappiness to me
While the condition of sickness and my wife was steadily growing worse
With her in and out of hospitals with one surgery after another
one crisis after another
Spending more and more time in the hospitals. I
Eventually turned from bad to worse
During all this time, I
Was constantly looking for love and peace and fulfillment I
Was also looking for acceptance by other people but never finding it
Consequently I turned to alcohol like I had never done before until I was a slave to yet
When the drowning and the alcohol wasn't strong enough I turned to drugs
The byproducts of drinking and taking drugs was the abandonment of all morals I was ever taught I
Delighted in wrecking cars and people's property
stirring up trouble in the lives of people
Gambling away anything I could get my hands on including my wife's clothes while she was lying in the hospital
and
My mental and spiritual depravity. I hated people for every imaginable reason
some for being of a different nationality
Saw some for having the wrong color of skin and the rest for no good reason at all
Finally after 11 years of marriage and
Eight years of that merely existing miserably while my wife was away in the hospitals
Going through some 17 different major surgeries
The doctor sent her home from the hospital to die
Those were the hard and
unbearable days of my life full of heartache and frustration
And by the end of 11 years, I knew I was a total and complete failure as a man and a husband
So the decision was made I would commit suicide I would go where I deserved to be in
hell I
Drove my car wildly onto the expressway
Pushing the accelerator all the way to the floor. I wanted all the speed I could get
Up ahead I spotted a concrete wall of an overpass bridge in the distance
That would be my target. I would drive the car into it and finish off my misery
Hell I would soon be in hell
My mind raced like a crazed animal running faster and faster to its
place of death I
Would soon taste death and hell for eternity
Help me God I started weeping and choking please God. Let me die some of the way
But someone else killed me so that I might not have to go to hell that horrible pit
Or else if you would let me live in love and peace, please. I'm scared to death to die
please
If you would let me live changed my life changed me. Let me become as someone else. I can't stand myself anymore
As I kept racing ever closer toward a concrete wall
Crying out to God suddenly. I realized the car motor
and stopped running
By the time the car reached the decided places suicide
The car coasted to a full stop a few feet away from the concrete wall. I
Made every attempt to start it
But it would not start
At that moment for the first time in my life I
recognized the presence of God all around and within me
Deep within my heart. I heard a voice similar to mine say
what you need is Jesus I
Began pleading. Oh Jesus my god saved me and changed my life
Suddenly the peace came over me filling my heart and mind and tears began to bathe my face
They were tears of joy
as
The horror and hurt and all the tortures of life melted away. I
Breathed in the presence of his great love and light
Again I heard the same voice say to me from within
Welcome home, Jacob. My son. I've been waiting for you
At that moment through the window of my mind for the first time in my life I could see the great mystery I
Could see father God in the face of Jesus Christ
He was no longer some kind of mythical or mist a mystical great power or force or some
Universal cosmic
Potentate that just came out of hiding from somewhere in a deep cold space or faraway heavens. No
At that moment. He became my personal God a
Personal God precious enough to intervene at the last second and save my life
And then he performed a miracle in my midst I
Had to mention that I had been a regular user of marijuana
And a friend of mine had given me a large amount of it wrapped up in a plastic red bag
The huge bag of marijuana was sitting beside me on the front seat of the car. I
Look into the rearview mirror and was blinded by the flashing lights of a police car
Knowing that I had no way of escaping without that large bag of marijuana being detected. I
Suddenly sank into great fear
Once again, I pleaded with God
Please sleep Jesus spare me from this trouble from this awful guilt and shame I will suffer if I am found with this. Marijuana. I
Knew the charge would be devastating because I was already in a lot of trouble
In my despairing cry and plea once again I heard his beautiful
comforting voice inside say to me
Trust in me trust in me trust in me and
I ask Oh God, what will I tell them? He said trust in me and tell the truth
The miracle took place before my eyes
Two officers were blind to the bag of marijuana sitting beside me
Then the Lord somehow confused the communication of the policeman and they wound up in a heavy argument right there in front of me. I
Did not have valid registration from the vehicle, but one of the officers had to be back my driver's license
He angrily told me to get the blower on my heater fixed and my wipers
Before I wound up killing myself and someone else because of my fucked up window. I
Thank you. You started the car without any problem
Remember the card stopped running by itself earlier I
drove immediately home
anxious
to tell my wife about my encounter with
God
Now this didn't get recorded in the written testimony
But I interviewed both of them on audio cassette tape
Transcribed it into tax let them read it and then it eventually got released Oh many many years ago
some
You know close to 30 years ago
Now has a
2019 and when Jacob come home he was all excited
To tell his wife
What had happened? And the first thing to come out of Kay's mouth was?
don't tell me you had an encounter with God and he said
Back to her how did you know and she said I did too. Let me tell you about it. It had happened
near the same timeframe when she got miraculously healed and he got delivered and
set free from suicide and
made his connection with Jesus Christ, officially
He goes on
Have you looked into my face before that glorious day of my meeting with God you had would have seen the wretchedness of sin
Hatred guilt and meanness. I know because I had look at that face everyday in the mirror
But after my glorious experience his Lauren was transformed and shining in my face
To all this I say to God be the glory and I leave you with this. I
Did not come to call the righteous
That is those who believe that they can get into heaven on their own goodness
but sinners
This is Jesus talking. I did not come to call the righteous but sinners
That's found in mark 2:17
We're all sinners by the way, the Bible says we are and we're all in need of having
God forgive us for all of our sins
that they might be
forgiven by God
And not held against us on the Judgment Day
Wow now, we're gonna go into a part two of Jacob's story that's
Really
fascinating I think let's continue on with their life story as
I grew in my
Relationship with the Lord and incident happened that changed the course of my life
Before I start sharing it I want to say that I believe it's possible to walk on dangerous ground with God. I
Believe there are occasions when we are thrust into the supernatural or spiritual dimension
And we must be very careful how we react to that experience after we come back to the world as we know it
Whatever I want to know that the experience I'm about to tell you is just one of those circumstances where I walk on dangerous ground
If I leave the impression with anyone that I am someone special or that I'm more spiritual than someone else
Or that I deserve to have experiences that other people don't have
If I was ever to start to do that, I believe God would take me right out of this life and let me die prematurely
Because I am trusting him to never let me fall from pride like Satan
it would be my prayer to God would always receive the glory for everything I say and do and if not,
Then have him take me right out of this life
The first thing I want to say is that I was not asking God to have an
experience to leave my body and go into the heavenlies know I
Was at my church engaged in intercessory prayer
There were several people in the room when it happened. I was 830 and had given my heart to the Lord about eight months previous
Before I share this experience, I feel it necessary to say that there were thousands of
Yugoslavian people in the Detroit area
Detroit Michigan area and I didn't know but a handful that were saved I
started praying in a prayer room at Bethesda Missionary temple in Detroit
The first I was kneeling and then I sat down on the back of my legs leaning into the Pew I
Remember being really broken out before God
whether somebody could tell me the difference between
Intercessory prayer or travailing prayer. I didn't know at the time I
Now know it was intercessory prayer
Anyway, I was broken up and I was crying out to God
At other times I would be saying to God in the spirit not
in an understandable language, but in tongues I
Was interceding on behalf of the numerous unsaved Yugoslavia people in the Detroit area
broken up because so few of them had a true understanding of what it was like
To have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and to be full of the Holy Spirit
Fact I was torn up because I knew they were going to hell I was begging and pleading with God
Not to let them go to the pit
As I prayed in the spirit sometimes praying in my own language I
Continued to beg to do something to turn them around
Then the Lord began to speak to me. He said
you pray for them you do it I
continued to pray
alternating back and forth from front thumbs to my
Croatian or Yugoslavian language
And then I asked again Lord. Is there anyone praying for these people? Is there anyone?
Suddenly out of my mouth the tongue stopped and the Holy Spirit gave me the interpretation in my native language
There is no one they are your people and they are your inheritance a
Moment later my spirit left my body. I
Know it left because I could look down and see myself
Still kneeling down leaning against that pew
In a split second. I was thousands of miles above the earth if not millions. I
Glanced behind me at one point saw the earth was about the size of a golf ball. I
Didn't feel anything as I was traveling. I didn't feel friction or motion
As I was moving away from the earth
I knew where I was going for the Lord had spoken to me as soon as I had left my body
I'm gonna show you your inheritance. I
Continued to move away from the earth and again I had the feeling to turn and glanced back which I did
But this time it was different
This time I was not looking through my eyes, but I was literally looking through the eyes of the Lord
This is difficult to describe
Somehow I was positioned behind the Lord and could see through the back of his head I
Was never allowed to see the front of him
he was invisible and I was looking through him as though he only had one eye I
Saw planet Earth in colors. I had never seen before and
Ever seen since them
As best as I can describe that they were kind of a golden green
As I looked through the Lord's eye it reminded me of looking through one of those telescopes
they used to use on the pirate ship centuries ago because as I gaze down at the earth it
Began to get bigger. I could see Yugoslavia as though I was only a few thousand feet above it
Now remember I knew I was thousands and thousands of miles above the earth and
Yet through God's eye. I could see Detroit, Michigan
and in the country of Yugoslavia Oh
at the same time
Soon the land was magnified more and then I was able to clearly see the countryside
roads houses
fields trees
ditches that I used to jump over I
Could see every place I had ever walked as a little boy
all simultaneously
at the same time
For a brief moment
I would say the majority of my concentration covered roughly an 80 mile diameter or
About a three countywide area where I was born in Yugoslavia
Suddenly the Lord allowed me to see something. I'll never forget I
Could actually see a blade of grass
growing
It reminded me of time-lapse photography as I marveled at what I was watching
Then I was able to see even closer
looking right into the fibers of the grass and then
individual molecules molecules
Simultaneously, I saw it all I guess as God sees it
Let's take a moment. Let me describe again the ability. God gave me all at the same time. I
had multiple perceptions of distance and
Feels the vision
Although there were different stages of
magnifications I was totally aware of all of them and
Yet not distracted or overwhelmed by one more than the other in other words
I knew and could see that I was millions of miles above the earth
But yet I could look over Detroit and at the same time
Look over the land where I played as a child in Yugoslavia
While I could do all of that I could still zero in and inspect the insides of a growing blade of grass
all the while never losing any of the other visual perceptions
Never was there jumping up and down of different levels of distances like one might imagine having to do
Simultaneously, I saw it all I guess it's God season
Then I was instantly removed from behind the Lord
Removed from his presence and was positioned in the air approximately fifty feet above the earth
It was as though I was dangling in midair was nothing keeping me there
I was looking down and as I was doing so I saw an open square
It was the main square in Belgrade Yugoslavia, I
Had never been there before so I had no way of knowing previous what to look at at least to my remembrance
In the middle of the square was a platform
Similar to the kind you would see at a Billy Graham crusade years ago when I saw I asked Lord, what is that?
The Lord replied you pray this is your inheritance
I'm giving it to you. I
Asked Lord, ow, I
Looked down at the crowds of people again, and I looked at the platform
Someone was standing on the platform preaching and as I look closer I can see
Person was me
And just like that push
It was over
Next thing I remember was that I was back in my body
Painfully aware that I was still in that kneeling
Sitting position where I had been one of my spirit had left my body
As I opened my eyes. I begin to feel terrible all over I
Was acutely aware of all the aches and pains in my body that I normally would just take for granted. I
was also aware of the feeling that I was confined as though I was suddenly put in a prison I
Remember struggling terribly with that feeling because I didn't want to be back in my body
While I had been in the presence of the Lord in the spirit, there was such. Peace
Now that an indescribable peace was suddenly gone the physical world was my reality once more
And I had to deal with it
But this I say
Whatever. I must do whatever pain and suffering. I must go through in this life to make it back into the presence of God
I will endure I
Will wait patiently
Because nothing in this life that I've experienced
Compares to that feeling of peace I encountered when I was positioned
Next to the Lord during that experience
Excuse me
The only prayer is that you will
Believe me when I say that it is worth it all all the pain all
the suffering all the misery all the hardships all the confusion all the
difficulties
All of these things that we experienced to one degree or another or are experiencing now
They flee away instantly when you are in the presence of God
Dear one whatever you do don't give up
Developing a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is worth it all and
Your time is coming when one day you will yell throughout the universe. I'm made it
and after you do that
Walk reverently up to Jesus Christ. Look him in the eye and thank him for making it all possible
Well, I shared at the beginning that I was gonna share a few other things here about this couple
We were publishing my wife and I were publishing Christian testimonies in written form only at the time this was back
around
1981 maybe - maybe
1983 I
Hadn't been a born-again Christian more than just a few years
but God called early to publish testimonies and
share the Gospel message with whoever
God got the testimonies into the hands of and to encourage people, of course
I got a phone call
Phone call from Jacob Dirac of it. Jacob says you know who I am, but I
was made aware that you published written testimonies and I just feel in my heart that
were to meet
is there any way that you could drive from Western Michigan where you live to Detroit and
We could meet for an evening
He said my wife and I are on an Indian Reservation
Native American Indian Reservation in Arizona and
a friend of mine that I used to Chum around was getting married and he has asked that I
Perform the wedding for he and his wife
They paid our way out to Detroit and to go back and I feel God wants me to do that
and
So we're gonna do that here in a few days and if you could drive
To Detroit and meet us there at the wedding
You could go home with us after the wedding and spend the night where we're gonna sleep or you can drive back home to
Grand Rapids, Michigan area whatever you want to do. I
Prayed about it. And I said, yeah. I want to meet you
So we went to the wedding, but it was all in Yugoslavian language. We didn't understand the word
After it was over after all the
Things you do after a wedding was accomplished we went to his to the house where he was staying I think his sister
I don't remember right now. It's not important
and and
I I told him I said, you know, I'd really like to get alone with you if we could
Can we do that
He said yeah
Let's let everybody sleep and let's go out in the car and talk
So we did and we talked he talked for hours into the bag
he shared this testimony pretty much as
Well as his wife's I had I had no clue. I had no idea what God had done in either of their lives
When it all got done
He it was almost breaking day and I shared with him I said, you know
I just really would like you to pray about letting us publish your testimony and
So he said he would pray about it and so in time
We did in fact publish actually both of these testimonies
His heart was to minister in Yugoslavia at that time as was his wives
Somehow what's this testimony are they both of these testimonies got released
Out into the public and we there were many copies available. We didn't have much money to get them around have any great marketing
Avenue to get them out but in time
Jacob down on this Indian Reservation in Arizona gave me a call. He said you won't believe what happened a
Copy of this testimony of ours got over to somebody in London. They read it and they feel
That God wants us to go to Yugoslavia
And they're gonna pay our way to get there
Because we don't have the money to go and
So
Praise the Lord, you know, what? Can you say praise the Lord? Well some more time went by I don't remember now weeks
Went by I got another phone call from Jacob. He said you won't believe
What has happened? What's that? He said well, there was a guy in Chicago
That I used to party with and we raised Cain over into Chicago in our younger age
without got drunk raised Cain and
Got a lot of trouble for it
This guy's called me up and
Said he got my testimony and he's got moved by it and he says how you know, what's going on with you going to Yugoslavia?
And Jacob says well, I have to get a passport first before we can go
And this guy said well
I happen to work for the passport people and I can pull strings and we can get you one
Very quickly instead of having to wait weeks and weeks and weeks and months
so it came together very quickly, Jacob and Kaye went to
England they ministered there awhile and then they went on over to Yugoslavia
long story short
They set up a church over there somewhere
In Yugoslavia and begin to pioneer a local church fellowship
In time Jacob ended up passing
and
He didn't make it to Belgrade to minister to the multitude
For whatever reason it never happened God took him home, but that might have been an enticement
My guess not knowing for sure. It was an enticement to get him there
He was an evangelist and it excited him to be able to administer to multitudes of Yugoslavians living in the old country
As of today as far as I know like so many other people that we publish testimonies on whether written or
video both
We just don't have time to keep up with them and they're usually out there doing ministry. I would say
From the time we started being obedient to the call a publishing testimony still present
I would say at least half if not three-quarters of the people
That we did testimonies on God had a call on their life to touch many many others as
God called them to do
many of them were
evangelists of stores Street evangelist
but
Jacob and
Kay
Went over and pioneered a church fellowship over there in Yugoslavia
Jacob ended up getting to go to heaven a number of years back and so Kay remained alive and
We heard from her briefly about three years ago
Roughly and she was still
Helping pioneer that local church fellowship that she and Jacob initially set up. They had a number of people attending they were
equipping de cycling other people to fill in and
Do what was necessary kay was getting older had a lot of age
Issues like we all have as we get older so she may be in heaven with Jacob now
it may not be I don't know but I just really
thought it was just so neat that they could end up getting back to Yugoslavia and
being obedient to what they believed God called them to and
Can't wait to get in heaven and meet both of them and hear about all the details that
Happened in between that we've not heard about yet
not that that'll probably make much difference when we get up in heaven, but just need to
to
See how God works in the lives of his people
I
pray that
Somehow someway this has blessed you encouraged you
God uses who he wants. He's just looking for obedient people
To do things his way
in accordance with his new covenant word the Holy Bible
In accordance with his Rhema words for their life when he speaks to our spirit do this
Call be obedient. That's what JK k and
Jacob Dirac of ik dead. They were humble people, but obedient people
sold out
For Jesus Christ sold out to God the Father sold out to the Holy Spirit
sold out to help advance the kingdom of God in the lives of people and I am
Quite sure that their testimony continues to reach out
God using it to touch the lives of other people
My friend if you have yet to put your
salvation testimony either in writing or speaking it
On the video and putting it out on YouTube. I would strongly
Encourage you to not let the devil
Talk you out of it
If we've seen one we've seen
Multitudes of
Christians where we were privileged to publish their testimony and
in time
See God use that to open doors
For
them to walk more fully into the calling God has in their lives and
To see lives change for the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ
We've backed off of the writing testimonies because I've had to do so much editing of them over the years
Rewrites and editing and I've I've lost a ton of grace for doing that
and
I have a whole lot more grace for video taping
video editing putting these video clips upon YouTube
so many people are preferring video over written testimonies and
With the availability of the cellphones and getting on the internet. It makes sense that it's just a lot easier for people to access
testimonies on
desktop computers and
Tablets and cell phones and what other technology people can print out written?
Dialog of these testimonies from YouTube if they want and then do whatever the Lord feels to have them do
With them so my friend
I
Find so much of my time
exhorting born-again Christians
To not wait forever if I've heard this once I've heard it so many times I want to throw up
Spiritually, well, that's not done with my testimony yet. Well, I have a whole book to write, you know, well
After 30 years of being born-again, you know have a testimony you can share that God can use 20 years 10 years
Christians really
Let the devil do a whole lot more their thinking I've had a number of Christians high challenge years ago to let me publish
Their testimony. Oh, it's not done yet. Oh, oh, I'm still, you know, God still riding my tester
Oh, oh, oh, I think God wants me to write a book
And the book never gets written their testimony never gets put down
into writing where God can duplicate it or it's on a video where it can be duplicated that way and
They go to heaven
Their testimony gets buried other than maybe they shared it with a few people
It gets buried God can't use it
It's got obligated to use our salvation born-again testimony. Not really
But here's the bottom line. I guarantee you he can't use it
Until we give it to him to use
We don't have any right award the Salvation testimony
To keep it top secret to keep it in a closet to bury. It will have any right to keep that to ourselves
God is the one who wrote our salvation testimony
Can't we
Give it back to him in a way where he can use it
For his glory and his purposes
Well, thanks for letting me share that god bless you
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