A lot of people find it very, surprising, like I tell people...
Actually Gautam and me over the years have had a lot of laughs.
On the... Oops!
- ...boundary, or before the game. - The glass is also surprised.
The glass has also broken! Mazel tov!
'Competitive' is a good adjective to use for you, right?
- 'Fiercely competitive' is a more accurate... - Very. And the reason was that...
...I grew up in an environment where...
...I remember that, on Saturdays and Sundays I used to get an opportunity of playing a game with friends.
And I remember that...
If you are unbeaten on Sunday, you will get a turn next week on Saturday.
And if you get out on Sunday, then you have to wait for your opportunity the next Sunday.
So the thing was, that was always very competitive that...
...I wanted to score runs, I wanted to be unbeaten, I wanted another...
...opportunity the next week.
So that made me competitive as well. And I knew that...
...if I wasn't competitive, then the next week I might be a fielder.
And you would never want to do that because you wait an entire week...
...just to end up fielding. So that is not a great thing.
And that is what made me competitive as well.
Anyway in Delhi...
...everyone would only want to bat. The rule in our colony was...
- ...whoever owned the bat, got the batting - And also wickets.
Have you ever done this? Whenever I got bowled...
- I would shout, "I told you to wait! I wasn't ready!" - Many times.
And if you got out on the first ball, I would say that it was a trial ball.
Every person must have done that.
Golden duck wasn't even allowed in colony cricket.
First ball was always trial ball no matter what.
But if the first ball was a six, then it wasn't a trial ball.
And nobody wanted to field, it was considered to be a blue-collar job.
- Exactly. - It's menial labour.
Absolutely. And I feel... and I say this even today that...
...one thing changing in today's times is that...
...kids nowadays are always on the iPad or phones or PlayStation.
During my time, I remember that whenever I came home from school...
...the first thing I used to do was go outside, playing Cricket, Football, Kabaddi...
...Playing Langdi Taang, playing anything possible. And the reason was...
...it made me mentally tough and competitive as well because...
...when you are outdoor, you have to compete. So that...
...competitive edge these days are missing.
During my days, there were no mobile phones. We only had landlines.
And if you wanted to call a girl, then you had to use a landline.
So there were many blank calls...
And if her mom or dad picked up the phone then you would have to hang up.
Yes, hang up and wait.
Then next day in school you would tell her, "I'll give you two rings...
...and then hang up... Understand that it's me whose calling".
But this was great fun as well. I think that is something that...
...most of today's kids would miss.
Because technology has made life so easy. If you lose a game on PlayStation...
...then you can always replay it.
No replays during our time... replays meant wait a week for your next opportunity.
So it was good fun.
Did you like anything else when you were growing up, or was it always just cricket?
I played every sport in school. I had to play, it was compulsory for us to play...
...every sport in school. I was a House Captain...
And as a House Captain, we had inter-house matches where you had to...
...play Soccer, Basketball, Swimming, Athletics, Table Tennis, Badminton...
Did you ever come to Mount St. Mary's School to play Brother O'Brien tournament?
- Yes, a lot. - My school also has a very good ground.
Yes, Mount St. Mary's had a very good team. So I played a lot over there and...
- ...the canteen was also very good. - Oh the samosas that our canteen had...
We used to sit on the steps which were in front of the ground...
...and there was also a football field there.
We had a very big ground. And our canteen was run by this man named Lalaji...
He made these samosas and with that he gave a chutney...
... that you felt like bathing because it was just so tasty!
And also the Chole Bhatures that he made.
Two minutes of silence for the happy memory.
Mount St. Mary's was a great school but my only problem with it was that it was a boys school.
That was the only disadvantage there.
I can't tell you how much of a big disadvantage that was.
I realised it. I went to Modern school from the very beginning itself.
And after passing out, I went to Hindu College.
- Which also had a great cricket team. - A great cricket team.
During my time we won all the three years of inter-college tournaments.
And I didn't attend even a single day of college during those three years.
All three years I gave special exams. My exams took place during June or July.
Generally, they're in April. But I got special permission for June/July
- And that Hindu - Stephens rivalry? - Massive!
I remember, I was playing my first inter-college finals against Stephens college.
Which used to be held at the university grounds.
You won't believe, there must have been around...
...eight to ten thousand students… From both sides.
Imagine.
I had never played an international game. Ranji Trophy never garnered such a crowd...
...that my first inter-college finals did… The University ground had 7-8 thousand students.
- And everyone's chanting, cheering... - Chanting with...
...boards and banners as well.
So after that Eden Gardens (ground) becomes damn easy, no?
Yeah. Imagine I was...
...one couldn't ask for more fun than that.
And great rivalry as well. All my friends...
...with whom I used to practice at IG (Indira Gandhi) stadium, all my close friends...
...went to Stephens (college). I went to Hindu (college).
I was the only one in Hindu(college), the remaining 9 or 10 close friends were in Stephens(college).
This is very similar to how it is in IPL and international cricket.
Yeah, exactly.
You play all year together, but for those two months they are in the opposite team...
- ...and the international guys are suddenly... - And sometimes I genuinely feel...
...it has that extra edge that you want to do well.
I always say that IPL has become bigger...
...not only because of the quality of players but also because when you've...
...played with someone throughout the year and suddenly you are playing against him.
So you have that competitive edge that you want to be better than the other...
...and there's nothing wrong with it. There's a healthy rivalry, there should be a healthy rivalry in everything.
So I've heard stories about you and Mishraji (Amit Mishra)...
...and how the two of you went for a marriage and managed to give the crowd a miss.
- Some friend's marriage. - No no, so here's what happened...
The marriage was in NOIDA. And there was so much traffic that...
... It had become quite late.
On top of that we were lost. So we asked someone...
...the groom's name was Kesar Chaudhary...
We asked, "Where's Kesar Chaudhary's wedding taking place?"
The man said, "Go straight ahead and then take a right".
Despite that, we were still lost. Then we saw a groom's procession...
...and we saw the groom astride a horse.
So we asked someone, "Where's Kesar Chaudhary's wedding?" They said, "That's him".
I rolled down the car's window, gave my wedding gift.
Kesar tells us, "Make sure you eat and go". I reply, "Of course we will".
We took the next U-turn and headed back home.
If they knew about this earlier then they would have kept someone ready with the meal.
- Like a drive-in. - Please enjoy your meal.
Mishraji is quite a colourful character.
Yeah. He loves his tea.
And also loves telling others to make tea for him.
- Has he ever told you to make tea for him? - No, I don't drink, nor can make tea.
Are you handy in the kitchen?
Not at all. I barely remember stepping in the kitchen.
This is how bad I am. In my own house...
...Natasha (wife) had gone to her mother's place.
It was quite late and I was feeling hungry.
I thought of getting something from the kitchen.
I saw some fruits kept there so now I wanted a spoon or a fork.
For 30 minutes I didn't find any spoon or fork.
And I was roaming around clueless.
At 1 am I call up Natasha and ask her, "Where can I find a spoon in our kitchen!"
She got beserk.
"What kind of man doesn't know where the spoons are in his own kitchen!"
What about this love for the army that you have? Since when do you consciously remember this?
I remember…
I was always very clear in my mind that I actually wanted to go into the army.
After 12th, I wanted to join the NDA.
And from there on, I would get in to the IMA and join the army.
Then what happened was, in 12th, I went on to play Ranji Trophy.
And then when I had to take this decision...
...of whether to continue playing cricket or go into the army...
Obviously, my mom and everyone said that You've now started playing Ranji Trophy...
...you're just once step away from playing for India.
At that time, there was no 'India A' or such things... Under-19, Ranji Trophy and straightaway, India.
They told me, "You've now worked hard, you've started doing well in Ranji Trophy"...
"...straightaway you've started doing well in Ranji Trophy, you've scored runs...
...why don't you continue playing?"
So that was the decision which I took... Ok, let me continue playing cricket...
...otherwise the first thing that was there on my mind was I wanted to do something for the defence forces.
Because that love is my first love.
- And you're doing now... - Hopefully, we can do more.
There's still a lot of work to do. The first initiative we took was about the CRPF...
...the families of 25 CRPF jawans who got martyred in Sukma.
We've decided to sponsor the children of all the 25 families for the rest of their lives...
...their education, till whatever level they want to study.
Hopefully, we can do some more of that as well...
...because there are so many other families who are going through the same things.
Hopefully, we can try and do that, because...
...as I said, that is something which is always close to my heart.
And the best thing you can do is maybe try and...
...contribute to their family, as compared to doing any other thing.
Had you decided which field of the Defence forces you would have been in?
Would you have been in the paramilitary?
- Would you have been a sniper? - Artillery!
- Artillery? - Yeah, absolutely.
Artillery is something which excites me a lot as well!
That's something which is on your cricket style as well...
...people say it always feels like there's a bomb about to burst.
It has burst many times!
But honestly, I've never taken...
...never ever in my life, whatever has happened on the cricket field, have I taken it personally.
And you never take it off the field.
Never! I've always left it on the cricket field as well. And that is how it should be.
And I expect the opposition to play the same way as well. There are no hard feelings.
When I walk on to the field, if I'm playing against any opposition...
Whether it's my own teammate I'm playing against or whether it's the opposition from any other country...
...I expect them to come hard at me and it is fine, it is absolutely fine.
Till the time they leave it on the cricket field, don't take it off the field as well.
I thoroughly enjoyed it! I enjoyed the sledging, I enjoyed the banter...
I enjoyed even the heated arguments I've had...
...with my own teammates when we played against each other.
That has got the best out of me, and I'm sure that it must have got the best out of the other people as well.
Till the time you don't take it off the field, it's absolutely fine.
In Dambulla, Asia Cup against Pakistan...
...when we played them after a very long time, I thought...
...that was the game where a lot of sledging happened.
In which Bhajji hit Shoaib for a 6. Shoaib and Bhajji had a scrap.
- And all in Punjabi. - All in Punjabi, or Hindi.
Abuses sound sweeter in Punjabi, don't they?
Can understand it also, and it's fun to give it back too...
What can we say to the foreigners?
After 1 or 2 lines, it's over... The words don't roll off the tongue...
But you enjoyed sledging whom the most? Who did you watch and go...
"If I say something to him, I can get under his skin."
I thought Shane Warne was one. Shane Warne obviously, I thought...
...never played against him in an International game, but yes, during the IPL, I did sledge him a lot.
- And how did he react to you? - Gave it back, and there was nothing wrong in it.
I still remember telling him that...
...the next time he should make sure he sends the text to the right person.
- That's a well-researched sledge. - Exactly.
The most- The fiercest bowler you ever faced? Or a few?
- Morne Morkel, in South Africa. - Yeah? Awkward bounce?
That's why I got him. Honestly, that's why we got him in KKR (Kolkata Knight Riders)as well.
I thought he was the toughest bowler I faced.
- Get him on your side - Absolutely, 100%.
Even when he was playing for Delhi...
...every time I would face him I would come back and say I wish we had Morne Morkel.
And the moment he was released, I said Morne Morkel.
You're the only captain I've seen at the auction.
Yeah because I felt that I don't want to sulk later on...
...saying I wanted that guy and didn't get him...
I wanted this team and I didn't get it...
They didn't listen to me... I don't want any excuses!
When I'm there, it means that whatever we pick...
I'm part of that as well, and whether we do well or we don't do well...
I take the ownership, if we've messed up or we've done well, I'm part of that.
So the auction is the first step and the most important step of building...
...or trying to get into to get into a competition in a good frame of mind as well.
If the captain doesn't go into the competition thinking good about his own squad...
...he would never be able to lead that squad in a proper way.
If you're given a responsibility, you should be there.
I don't think I'm doing something extraordinary, it's just the responsibility which I'm taking.
Genuinely I believe, when I started to captain this side, KKR...
...I thought that the way I would play is the way KKR would play.
If I would be timid, I can't expect my team to be absolutely aggressive.
And I wanted them to get that feeling of winning the game.
It is not about competing, it is about winning.
For me, there is no such thing as a competing dressing room.
There are only 2 kinds of dressing rooms.
You must have heard it said that "We're going out there to compete."
Competitions are not about competing. They are about winning, either you win or you lose.
Do you feel that because that's not the correct thing to say most times...
For most people the correct thing to say is...
"You gotta go out, you've gotta give it your best"... Compete, the results don't matter."
People say those lines... What you say is closer to the truth.
- Unfortunately, because I'm not diplomatic at all. - There you go.
Do you think you're misunderstood because of that sometimes?
Not sometimes, all the time.
Because ultimately, as I said, a lot of people say that...
"Results are not in our hands." But I've always believed that only results matter.
So I've never been diplomatic, never believed in being diplomatic...
I was very clear in my mind, it's about winning!
Did you know, by the way, at the end of season 3 when the whole rejig was happening...
When you were the first player up for auction, KKR picked you up...
- I was traveling. I was in South Africa. - So you didn't know?
And I remember that I was talking to my friend. He said, "The auction is tomorrow."
And I told him that I felt that all the teams... I'm not kidding...
...all the teams will bid for me, except for KKR.
We had a stopover in Dubai...
I took a flight from Dubai... We had boarded the flight, were about to take-off...
I got a call from my friend saying, "You've been picked by KKR."
- I was shocked! "KKR?!" - He said, "You've been the highest paid cricketer."
KKR! I never thought KKR would bid, then being the highest bid...
...I was absolutely shocked!
Must have been a really nice flight! Must've slept really well...
A lot! But then, more than the sleep, there was the responsibility as well...
'Coz they were clear, they were clear you're the captain, that you're the long-term captain.
Whether you like it or not, I've always realized that...
whatever people say about there being no pressure with the money... "I didn't ask for the money"...
There is the pressure of money! Because the thing is, it is so human.
You must have heard people say "I didn't ask for money at the auction, they gave it...
...There's no pressure on me" and all that stuff.
But when you get so much money, you do feel you've got to be fair to the position.
You've got to be fair to that money as well. And that is how I always thought about it.
The first 2 games I was so nervous, not because of my ability on the cricket field...
...I was nervous about whether I'll be able to say to myself that...
...what they have spent on me, I was worth it.
So for me to prove that, was a bigger pressure than doing things on the cricket field.
Your favourite thing, more than the auction or more than playing, I know you love it...
...is the shoots for all the ads and the dancing and the singing before the campaign.
You love that, right? Your favourite days at work, no?
Not at all, not at all!
Don't even mention that.
In the whole Jio ad, there was just one guy playing the dhol...
...and that too because they got after me that everyone is dancing, you have to also dance.
I said, "Boss, I can't dance. I can't dance, I can't sing."
They said, "Grab the dhol and beat it as hard as you can"
I said, "That I can do." "And these two will dance on the beat of your dhol".
Yusuf (Pathan) and Robin (Uthappa) were dancing and I was trying to play the dhol.
Do you think...
... 'coz you're a no nonsense guy, right, you don't take nonsense from anyone...
Do you think that your daughters will absolutely make you melt when they grow up?
- You'll never get your way... - They already do!
Because I think... That's what Natasha tells me...
"There are only two people in this world who you would melt in front of and that's your two daughters."
And that's absolutely true!
-They'll break all your stubbornness -Absolutely true.
I still can't say a word to them, I still melt in front of them.
I don't want to say that they are my weakness...
...because 'weakness' is a word which I actually do not use a lot because I don't believe...
But, somewhere down the line I thought that...
Eventually, if ever there will be a weakness in me, it would be both of them.
Before we go, have one pakora.. Just one, for us... A small one...
There it goes... showing his absolutely great form...
A strange feeling in the mouth because he hasn't had a pakora for a really long time...
Bringing back old memories...
Gautam has taken the plate of pakoras and put it in his bag.
Absolutely.
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