- Hey, y'all, Shawn with Custom Offsets,
Custom Offsets TV on the YouTube.
Got another one of these sh--
I never knew videos.
This one's gonna be Width Wars.
We get a lot of questions of,
whether you're running the 12 wides
and the 12 1/2s and you're going for this nice,
straight up and down side wall,
or if you're running the 10 wides,
which the 20 by 12, 20 by 10
are the most popular sizes for sure these days,
and you're looking for some sidewall protection,
you'll see that this one's got a little bit of bulge to it.
We get a lot of questions of,
how come when I'm running X brand tires,
I don't have the sidewall, I'm getting a stretch,
or I have more sidewall than I expected,
I wanted that nice square up and down look,
or the height of the tire is changing
or the rubbing is changing
based on which tire brand I select,
so what we've done, we'll get these out of the way,
but what we've done...
We brought in a bunch of 35 by 12 1/2s,
and we're just going to show you
some different measurements on those.
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- So one of the first things
we want to kind of show you guys
is just taking a regular old tape measure.
If we look from one edge of the tread
to the other edge of the tread,
because when you first look at a wheel and tire set up,
I believe, we believe that the tread
is one of the first things that you see
and that tread width is what you're focused on.
So if I go to the most outside,
the lug that sticks out the furthest,
but where it's flat at the top,
where it's got an actual contact patch,
to the other side, it's looking like 10 1/4
on the Nitto Ridge Grappler 35x12.50.
So 10 1/4 here.
Fuller you'll have to leave them up on the screen
so as I say them, 'cause I'll forget
by the time I get down there.
Now the next one, which is the Nitto Trail Grappler.
So this is the Nitto Ridge Grappler.
They're hybrid, between an all terrain and an MT.
This is their MT, the Trail Grap.
And again I'll go to the furthest outside
to the furthest outside.
Have to find the right one to get the bump out.
That one's 11 1/4.
So that one's quite a bit wider
if you're looking at that tread,
and part of it is it's got these bump outs on it,
which is gonna give it a quarter inch on each side,
that gives it the illusion of an even wider tread,
because those don't come to the top.
I guess once you wear 'em down they will.
The Toyo Open Country M/T is also going to be at 10 1/4.
So that's pretty much the same as the Ridge.
And the Atturo X/T, now this is their hybrid.
Is going to be about 10 1/8,
so right there, with the rest of them.
And then the Baja ATZ P3.
You're going to be sitting at the same, about 10 1/4.
So pretty much 10 1/4, 10 1/8,
just an eighth inch different, and the widest one by far,
because of these bump outs,
so if I ignore these bump outs,
and I don't know why you would.
Let me do a normal one.
That's still 10 1/2.
So definitely the Toyo or the, I'm sorry,
the Nitto Trail Grappler is going to be the widest
when you're looking at that contact patch.
I'm using contact patch loosely.
I understand that this entire tire is not going to ride,
but I'm going to edge of lug to edge of lug.
Now, another game we wanted to play.
When you mount this up on a wheel,
you really start to look at the side wall,
either the stretch, the bludge, or that straight up
and down like the Toyo that I showed you,
on that 12 wide.
So we've set this at 12 1/2 inches inside,
so when I go on that Nitto Ridge Grappler,
you can see it's a snug fit, if not a little bit tight,
for the 12 1/2, and reason is
they've got two different side walls on this one,
so this one's pretty aggressive
and this one's super aggressive side wall,
so it's got some pretty decent lugs on both sides of it.
When I go over to the Trail Grap,
it's about the same fit.
It's actually just a touch looser.
Still gets hung up, but it does slide over,
versus this guy which will not slide over.
So the Trail Grap is actually just a touch narrower
and you'll see the same thing,
it's got aggressive both sides.
Aggressive both sides.
I think this one's slightly more aggressive
on the sidewall.
Now the Toyo Open Country M/T is not going to fit at all.
So that's not even close,
I would say it's a half inch from going on there.
Because it's got such a huge side lug,
I would say that's going to be more like 13 inches
if you were to try to fit that on there,
so there's no way that's going to go on there.
It may even be over 13 inches
if you're trying to get around those side lugs.
And then you have the...
Just gonna roll that forward.
And then you have the Arturo X/T,
remember this is a hybrid,
much like the Ridge Grap and the ATZ,
and you have room for days.
So I can put my whole hand inside of there.
Remember these are all 12 1/2s.
So a lot of times, we're getting the question
how come when I switched from my Nittos or Toyos
to the Arturo X/T in the same size,
now it looks like I have tire stretch
or a more narrow tire, well,
it's because it's more narrow.
Recalibrate, I'm still good.
So you'll see that there is a ton of room there.
I would say there's at least an inch.
So it's not nearly as aggressive of a side wall
and it's just flat out narrower
and that's why you're starting to see that tire stretch.
The Mickey Thompson ATZ.
Same thing, you've got little bit of extra room.
Probably almost get a finger in there,
I'd say it's probably closer to half inch
if not 3/8 of an inch.
But it's definitely loose compared to these guys.
And I'll just show you quick
that I did not move the measuring tool.
Still doesn't fit at all.
Still fits snug, it catches on the way.
And this one will still be tight
and not really go down on there.
So that's the difference and that's what you're seeing
is you're seeing that these guys are just plain wider,
this one a little bit narrower,
and this one significant narrower.
And that's why when you put these up,
mount 'em up on a wheel,
especially a 12 wide, you're really going to see
the difference in the sidewall
'cause you're going to be pulling out
more on that X/T and then this guy,
being the fattest of them all,
no, this guy being the fattest of them all,
is going to have a little bit more side bulge
because you've got a little bit more tread
on the sides of that, so...
That is the difference and that is Width Wars
with these five fellas.
Let us know if you want to see any more.
I know we've got a bad ass all terrain tire comparison
coming up next for you guys.
Peace.
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