You may be seated.
Good morning, Your Honor.
Good morning.
This is the case of Nielsen v. Davis.
Thank you, Ron. Good day, everyone.
AUDIENCE: Good day.
Ms. Nielsen, you say the birth of your two-year-old son Kaydn
literally saved your life.
And to repay him, it is imperative that you make it a point
to have his daddy in his life.
So, you've summoned the defendant Mr. Davis to court
to prove to him that he is your baby's biological father.
Is that correct?
NIELSEN: Yes, Your Honor.
Mr. Davis, you claim it is commendable
that Ms. Nielsen has changed her life,
but unfortunately, she cannot undo her past.
You are 100% certain that you are not her son's father,
and claim to have physical proof
to support your doubt.
Is that correct?
Yes, Your Honor.
So, Ms. Nielsen, how did Kaydn save your life?
I struggled with an addiction for numerous years,
and when I found out I was pregnant with Kaydn,
I was able to go into rehab,
and stay in rehab until I had Kaydn.
And I still today, I'm clean from the time I was pregnant,
so I'll have three years clean in September.
That's wonderful. That is wonderful.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
And so, this child really did change your life in more ways than one.
NIELSEN: He saved my life.
And so you believe Mr. Davis is Kaydn's biological father?
NIELSEN: Yes, I believe he is.
JUDGE LAKE: Tell me why.
NIELSEN: When I found out I was pregnant,
I went into rehab.
In the past few months before I went into rehab,
I spent a lot of times with Mr. Davis.
I actually stayed at his cousin's house,
and he was with me almost every night
at his cousin's house. So we were together
for a few months before I went into rehab.
You all were having a sexual relationship,
and, presumably, not using protection.
Yes.
Mr. Davis, do you remember this relationship?
Yes, I do, Your Honor. It was not a relationship,
it was just something I was trying to, I was just pursuing.
We were just having sex. We were just, we wasn't...
I was already in a relationship.
JUDGE LAKE: Oh!
All right, so you were in a relationship,
but you were having a sexual relationship with Ms. Nielsen?
Exactly.
JUDGE LAKE: But were you using protection?
No.
JUDGE LAKE: All right,
so that is what lands you in Paternity Court.
Uh, moving on,
so you were having a sexual relationship with her.
She says it's during the window of time that she conceived.
Well, see, I don't know about that because
when I first met Ms. Nielsen, we were both in a place
we was trying to get our life together.
At that time,
I used to tell her that she was pregnant then,
but she said she wasn't.
So, after we left that place,
that's when we start pursuing each other a little bit more.
So when she did tell me that she was pregnant,
I told her, "What are you telling me for?
"Because I knew that you had been with other guys."
JUDGE LAKE: You... Oh! You felt like
when you started a sexual relationship with her,
she was already pregnant.
Yes.
JUDGE LAKE: And you said that to her?
Yes.
JUDGE LAKE: Did he tell you that, Ms. Nielsen?
"I think you're pregnant already"?
We met in October of 2012.
I got pregnant in May of 2013,
and had the baby in February of 2014.
So, I was not pregnant when we met.
So, Ms. Nielsen, when you told him you were pregnant, what happened?
So, his phone number changed
so I really didn't know how to get a hold of him.
JUDGE LAKE: So, you didn't speak to him much while you were pregnant?
No, until Kaydn was a few months old,
I got a hold of him and he denied it.
So you spent the entire pregnancy by yourself?
NIELSEN: Yes.
But honestly, in my heart, I believe that Mr. Davis is
Kaydn's father.
Because of the lifestyle I was living,
supporting my drug habit,
there were other people I had sexual relations with.
So what makes you think...
But I was very cautious
with those people and it was a lifestyle
supporting my drug habit.
So what makes you think that I was the father?
Because we didn't use protection, and we were together.
Compared to one time with these other men,
to multiple times with you.
DAVIS: I saw you with other guys...
NIELSEN: Yeah,
you were there. I know that.
...physically, physically.
You saw her... What do you mean you saw...
Physically with other guys.
We was in a place, and she brought other guys into the place
and told me to leave out.
And you were still having sex with her with no protection?
Yes, that was my... Yes.
JUDGE LAKE: Mmm.
Okay.
NIELSEN: It was all about the money, and using.
We both had a different lifestyle at that time.
JUDGE LAKE: Understood, understood.
So in your mind, Ms. Nielsen,
did you feel like this thing, this sexual relationship
with Mr. Davis could turn into something?
Did you feel like maybe there was a chance
for a relationship there?
Honestly, I did. I had feelings for Mr. Davis
and he was well aware of that. He was playing me, obviously,
'cause we said we loved each other.
I've never told you that.
He would tell me... Yes, you did!
And we would talk on the phone,
I was in a different city,
I would travel on the train to come spend time with him.
There was a time when we talked about getting a place...
Negative.
...and being together.
There was a time...
We never talked about anything but...
But I honestly, I didn't know if he was real.
I knew about his other life...
DAVIS: You knew I never had feelings for you.
Now I know that.
JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Davis,
you're having sex with this woman for a course of months...
DAVIS: Yes, Your Honor.
And you admit you're not using protection.
DAVIS: Yes.
Now, okay, if you told her you don't really have feelings for her,
so be it. I can't change that.
But you have to understand that you most certainly are a possibility...
Okay.
...if the window of conception
matches up to the time you were in a sexual relationship with her.
I know of other people involved that could also be the father.
JUDGE LAKE: Understood.
DAVIS: Your Honor.
JUDGE LAKE: Yes.
I have a birth certificate
and he has a last name of "H."
I mean...
JUDGE LAKE: Let me see that, please, Ron.
This is evidence. This is a birth certificate, you said?
Yes.
This is a copy of
Kaydn's birth certificate?
When you look at the last name,
you don't see yours.
DAVIS: Exactly. Nor hers.
JUDGE LAKE: Or hers.
Exactly.
At the time I was pregnant, and I was in the hospital,
giving birth to Kaydn, alone, all by myself,
I didn't have any friends or family by my side.
My whole lifestyle I let go of,
because it's in the past.
The one man that is by my side is incarcerated.
We communicate correspondence mail and on the phone calls,
he will always be in my life.
He will be out next year.
And if he's in my life, he's in Kaydn's life.
JUDGE LAKE: So you■ gave Kaydn just...
...a friend's last name?
NIELSEN: Yes.
He's a good man, and I believe he will be there for my son if no one else is.
All right. And listen, you had gone through a very traumatic
um, evolution, we'll say,
and I understand that.
But what we're here discussing is Kaydn's paternity,
and so as we talk about Mr. Davis' doubt,
if we have to understand that, yes, that now,
a birth certificate with another man's last name on it
gives him even more reason to doubt.
There's another guy that says
that he's most definitely the father, that she's, uh...
Oh, so there's another gentleman
claiming that he's Kaydn's biological father?
Yes, Your Honor.
So, that's Mr. Turner?
Yes.
He's in court today in the hallway.
That's the other gentleman he's talking about?
I met Mr. Turner years back. We also partied and had that lifestyle together.
It was pretty much a relationship out of convenience.
I honestly do not remember at the time of conception,
being with this man.
I remember telling him I was pregnant,
just in general telling him, "Oh, my gosh, I'm pregnant.
"I really need to get my life together."
I need to do something, 'cause I'm still using and I found out I was pregnant.
He supported me, you know? Going to rehab,
and was very encouraging about that.
JUDGE LAKE: He says he's Kaydn's biological father?
NIELSEN: Yes.
I haven't seen him in years, and six months ago,
he says he's turning his life around
and shows up in the city where I live,
and he says he wants to see Kaydn, and I mean...
JUDGE LAKE: But Mr. Davis is saying his doubt stems from the fact that
he knows you were having sex with other people during the window of conception
and that Mr. Turner is claiming the baby is his.
DAVIS: Yes, Your Honor.
That would make the average man doubtful.
I wanna hear from him.
Ron, will you please escort Mr. Turner in the courtroom, please?
Yes, ma'am.
Hello, Mr. Turner. Thank you for joining us today.
You're welcome, Your Honor.
We're here discussing the paternity as it relates to baby Kaydn,
and I'd like to know why you believe you are Kaydn's biological father.
I had known about her pregnancy,
and I had moved away,
and then I lost contact without my phone's information,
so my daughter set up a Facebook page for me,
and she friend requested me, and seen me,
and then when I seen Kaydn,
I looked at him and I said, "Wow."
I said, "He really looks like my other son."
I believed that he was my child. To me, he looked like me,
I had a gap between my teeth, he's got a gap between his teeth,
he has a lot of characteristics similar,
he acts, he acts like, he acts like all my children, you know?
And you, admittedly, were in a sexual relationship with Ms. Nielsen
during the window of time Kaydn was conceived?
Yes, Your Honor.
You acknowledge that as well, Ms. Nielsen?
Honestly don't remember.
I remember we had a relationship pure out of convenience,
and I was around him at that time, yes.
JUDGE LAKE: Okay.
What is your involvement with Kaydn now, Mr. Turner?
Well, she contacted me on Facebook, um,
I'd made arrangements
to come out and see him.
See, he likes to go to parks,
and he likes to run, so we run, you know?
He really runs, and it's an all-day affair.
We'll go out and we eat...
I've been, you know, I've been on several visits to see him.
They were all good, you know? To me, I thought they were all good.
Now, did you let him spend time with Kaydn because you believe
he is one of Kaydn's possible biological fathers?
I've told him from day one that I believe that Mr. Davis is his father.
Mr. Turner, has she ever told you, Ms. Nielsen ever told you
that you are Kaydn's biological father?
She told me that she had doubts.
She didn't, she said she did not know.
So, when she introduced you to Kaydn,
how did she introduce you? "This is Mommy's friend?"
How did she introduce you?
She didn't introduce me
as Dad and, um,
for that reason, you know, I never pushed the issue,
because I said, before I want him to call me Dad,
I wanted to know if I was his true father.
And have you been providing for Kaydn?
I've tried to make attempts to provide for him.
He's not doing anything. Nobody has been there.
Nobody has bought Kaydn a pack of diapers,
a sippy cup, a toy,
nobody even knows what he likes.
He couldn't even tell you anything about Kaydn.
He says he knows Kaydn...
Your Honor, Your Honor...
So you feel like you're all by yourself?
I am all by myself, and maybe I put myself in that position,
but if I could possibly prove who Kaydn's father is,
which, in my heart, I believe is Mr. Davis, I would like to do so.
Mr. Turner has not provided, he has offered to provide,
every time he gets paid. Three separate instances
he offers to bring Pull-Ups, then for two days
his phone's lost, or he doesn't answer his phone
and he does not show up.
I've told Kaydn, "D.T.'s coming." He does like D.T.,
Because D.T. plays with him,
and takes him, you know, he remembers that time
because he did play...
One-on-one attention, any kid would like that.
And he doesn't come, and then Kaydn's going to the door all day, "D.T."
And he's not there.
See, that's the whole point.
She looks for me, she talks about
nobody's there for her, and she looks for support.
If I'm working...
NIELSEN: Basically, I would like to prove to Mr. Turner
that Kaydn is not his child.
One at a time.
What I'm not understanding is you seem to be angry with Mr. Turner,
because he is being irresponsible,
as it relates to bringing the Pull-Ups, and doing what he says,
but you said that you truly believe,
with all your heart,
Mr. Davis is Kaydn's
biological father.
So, why are you mad
at him at all?
Mad because he presented the situation.
I would be mad at anyone if they said, "I'm coming over tonight for dinner,"
and they don't show up.
So, you're angry because he makes promises he doesn't keep?
All right, Mr. Davis, why are you so doubtful?
When she told me she was pregnant,
and by me knowing her lifestyle,
and what she was capable of doing,
and me seeing her with other guys physically,
I knew that it could also be someone else
that could be the father.
Okay,
so you doubted because you knew she was having a sexual relationship
with someone else as well.
DAVIS: Right.
But you did know that you were also having a sexual relationship with her.
What else? Any other reason to doubt?
He doesn't really look like me,
in any kind of way.
JUDGE LAKE: You don't feel like
the child looks like you?
No.
No, I think he looks like he could be another nationality.
You think the child's another nationality?
DAVIS: Yes.
Well, Ms. Nielsen is another nationality.
Maybe he's a, he's a blend of two.
A Mexican or something.
NIELSEN: I honestly believe that he is Kaydn's father,
and I don't have much family, I only have a mother,
I've never had a big family growing up,
and always, I feel like I kinda...
I always wish I had a family.
So, if I could find a family that is, in fact, Kaydn's,
and they could do right by him,
I would like to provide that for him.
All right, at this point I've heard enough testimony,
and there definitely is doubt here.
And, Ms. Nielsen, it's time to get the answers for you and Kaydn.
Thank you, Your Honor.
I'm ready for the results, Ron.
Yes, ma'am.
These results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics, and they read as follows.
In the case of Nielsen v. Davis,
when it comes to two-year-old Kaydn,
it has been determined by this court,
the biological father is...
It has been determined by this court,
the biological father is...
Mr...
Davis.
DAVIS: All right. Okay.
JUDGE LAKE: How do you feel?
DAVIS: I feel good.
So now, my sons can know their little brother.
JUDGE LAKE: Good. Good.
That's what we wanna hear.
And I see, Ms. Nielsen,
that you have tears in your eyes in this moment.
What are you feeling?
Mixed emotions. I'm happy to finally know, but
I'm scared for Kaydn, I'm scared for his future,
'cause I want him to have a good father,
and I want him to have a good life, and be... (SNIFFLES)
Have everything he deserves,
and I just really want you to step up and be there, Rodney.
Please, he needs you. He needs you more
than any child needs a father.
JUDGE LAKE: Why don't we start right now?
If it's okay, I'd like for you and Mr. Davis to meet me in my chambers.
And I'd like Mr. Davis to get a chance to meet his son.
Is that okay? All right.
Yes.
Meet you in my chambers. Court is adjourned.
Well, this has been a day of revelation, right?
Yes, it has.
Now, we want you to continue on this path that you've started on.
So, Mr. Davis,
are you ready to see your son?
DAVIS: I'm ready.
Good.
(SOFTLY) Baby! Hey, it's okay, honey.
Say hi.
DAVIS: Come here, come here.
Come here, big guy. Come here, big guy.
I'm your dad. So, we're gonna spend a lot of time together.
All right?
I wish you all the very best of luck, okay?
Take care of him.
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