let's go back to our actual practice of delicious yes
because this is the practice we just have to keep practicing
we just practice and practice because so long as we have wounds in our system,
which is for a while, still, it will always hook us right and lead us away,
and then we get pinned up against a should or a fix it
or you know a hide out, or you know, this will always happen.
So let's go through it.
We go step one: We notice the fear the fear Step 2: we notice the fear is not true, right?
Both of those cases, those are huge practices, it's like a big practice in between each of
those right But we have the classes right?
That's what all the classes are for, we keep going through the classes, year after
year to navigate them, some of you guys are just the entering the
classes, but you know we've got great practice ground to do 1 and 2.
So then number 3: come into the body you guys are all super good at that, coming
into the body, right?
So we've noticed the fear, we've let ourselves see it's not true.
We're coming into the body, and this is, again, this is when you're up
against a rock of despair or just this subtle like
what's next moment, right?
So from that whole spectrum what's next – to like I'm gonna kill myself.
Anywhere in there.
There is what we need to do, come into the body.
From the body is where we start to parade the options.
Now if we haven't a freaking clue, we're just gonna throw broad things at the wall, right?
Which is fine, the broad spectrum – so what's next?
I'm in the body, I haven't a clue, so it's like just throw something at the wall
you know go for a drive, see a movie and then stay home and crawl into bed and read a book
and look like they're just really different, right?
you know call a friend and go for tea and just throw big strokes at the wall,
if we're just really, I cannot find a delicious yes anywhere
From the broad strokes, because we're in our body, we can feel the level of effort right,
so it's like oh, I can't leave, like the thought of getting in the car and seeing movie is
effort.
So it's like good, it's not leave the house then, so then the one that feels like crawl
into bed and read a book – now we feel into it, It feels a little dead,
feels a little numb, a little disconnected It's like okay, okay.
It's somewhere in the house, but it's not in bed, you know, like, okay.
So now we have a range right.
So this is from nowhere, just there's not a,
because sometimes we get pushed up against this like should movement,
and then we notice the fear, we believe, we recognize the fear is not true,
we come into the body, and then it's just like I don't freaking know right
and it's at that point, and sometimes it's literally on the side of the road, right?
like if you're in the car cuz you started to go to the birthday party
and you just realize it's nothing but pure effort and there's just no way
and so you have to pull the car over right there and just throw broad strokes out
to see what's gonna happen.
Sometimes it's like with kids in tow at the freaking grocery store,
Right and it's like throw the broad-strokes out
just feel, you know, feel.
Sometimes it's you know in the middle a big family event, it's just you know, going off
the rails and it's painful and you just have to like
head for the restroom and close the door and go through these steps, right?
So it's not, we're not necessarily like in a nice safe meditative place, right?
We're kind of like hanging out at the edge there, kind of disoriented and knowing that
we're in effort and we've gotta get back
So if you already have a sense of what it is, then you can work with the small range,
right?
So just so in the in the small range we're gonna have
things like I'm hungry.
I know I'm hungry.
I'm hungry, right like that's like I know.
So is it Indian?
Is it I cook what's in the fridge, is it sushi? you know, like is it takeout, is it what's
in the fridge, and where's the delicious from there?
instead of where's the like simplest or the best solution for them or makes everybody,
fixes everybody or it's just smoother right or I'm numb
and disconnected and have no needs and just make it happen for the kids or the
family or the friends you know like instead of any of that right?
It's like, I know I'm hungry.
So wait, let's just like come into the body, feel what it is, and then work with the small
range.
Now, this stuff you all know, so here's the place where it's a little tricky
because now whether it's big range or small range,
now will be this moment where I know what it is, I know where I'm supposed to go
and what I want, but I'm here and that distance can feel very
very far and this is maybe not true if I'm hungry and
the answer was you know get takeout, but it is very challenging if it's you know,
I'm I'm you know what's it called when you purchase a house,
but you haven't yet s escrow
k I'm in escrow right.
I'm in escrow with somebody on a house and it's just nothing but freaking effort
and my delicious is to rent in another city right like so, but I'm here.
I'm in escrow with someone on a house and delicious over there,
so that's a big distance right from so that's the place where it's really a tough
thing so and I mean, let me give you some other
examples of course or you know, or just the really
high stake ones right, which is like it's like my kid and my kid
has this need and my delicious is not that at all right,
somewhere else completely like that feels huge, as a parent, the distance
of that.
It's like you know and we're so we're so stuck there, we're so challenged there.
Or it can be a partner, right just a friend, or a deep relationship
that and you know that we're up against those same kind of belief systems
I made this commitment, I said I'm going to be here, but it's over here.
So in that situation we can't push, right we can't effort, because effort's not going
to get us anywhere.
We're working with the effortless.
So here we are in escrow in this thing that we thought was delicious
or we actually won't, in hindsight we realized it was never delicious,
and we realized we had a bit of an agenda running
and we forgot to really check in and so now I am here and the whole thing's crashing on
me.
It's not at all what I want, what I want is over here.
So we can't effort to get over there because that's you know counter-intuitive
So what we have to do is we have to just stop, just stop, right there.
And sometimes we'll stop for 10 minutes and sometimes we'll stop for two weeks,
but we gotta stop.
And then from the stopping we have to put our focus on that.
So that's that place where I talk about just identify the delicious yes.
You don't have to do it, do whatever the heck you want,
but just know where it is, identify it.
So if this is identified, here's what's gonna work for you – reality always wins
whatever's true always trumps the illusion – always
if you hang on to the illusion, it can get incredibly painful when truth trumps it,
but nevertheless it trumps it.
So if you're sitting in this place, which is an illusionary place, right?
it's a lot of effort, and your focus is here on this place,
now, it's just a matter of time, frankly it's really just a matter of time before the reality
trumps the fear and it becomes effortless to go here,
and that, you just have to wait that out.
And again, it could be ten minutes.
It could be two weeks, but the focus is identification, identification on delicious yes.
Now in the two weeks, are you gonna do nothing? you're not, you're gonna maybe ideally, it
might be just terrifying to communicate that you're gonna pause the escrow
it might be, and just just effort everywhere.
So you just sort of carry on in this flow.
It's a totally out of alignment flow, you know it, and it sucks
you hate it, it's effort, but you may just have to carry on
but the whole time your focus is on what you actually want,
and sooner or later but hopefully sooner if your focus is really there, not here, but
here this will trump, this will just,
wait it, and it'll just be easy to get over here.
It will just, clarity will just make, you'll just
Suddenly the pathway just gets real like it just suddenly lights up.
What to say, how to say, and sometimes you don't have to do one damn
thing, sometimes they just come to you, and they say hey, I don't want this anymore,
another offer came in that was better.
Sometimes you have to do nothing it just … Either way, the pathway just opens up.
Now this will not happen if your focus is here.
If you have not identified where that delicious is, if you haven't done the work.
right?
If you haven't recognised the fear, the fear is not true, come into the body, paraded the
options, feel what's delicious, land it, identify it
because otherwise, you guys all know, cuz we've all lived it so much, right,
we're stuck in this stuck place, it's a place of a lot of compromise.
It's not working, it's a lot of effort and then what you do is what I, what all of
us do, is one of these patterns – we disconnect, we numb out, we focus on them
right and focus on what the kid needs or what our partner needs, or what our commitment
was, or what the community is, and at that point we've completely lost the
support of God, right?
We've lost the support of our source.
That's where we start to decide what we're supposed to do to make it okay for them,
and we can't, we can't.
We can't fix it for them, we can't save them from being hurt
and we can't save someone from being disappointed, we can't save someone from feeling abandoned.
We can't, we can't do anything, we can't.
it's like It turns out we're all one and everybody's massively autonomous, totally autonomous
and we can't really affect another, not really
they can take our words or our actions and stab themselves in the heart with it
but we can't really control that so that's a piece of this work of that delicious
Yes is being able to wait it out keeping your focus here
so that being said you can talk practically around some of these big ones
that are in you guys's life right now and sort of consider what the identification
is cuz I know you all got a lot some of the things that we're really up
against is our own sense of morality
or our communities or our partners or children's sense of morality
that's a place in that that place.
We're in the escrow, we've made the commitment it's like versus where the delicious is
a lot of times where it gets hard to like keep your focus on this one
it's because you're up against your own story of morality
[students] yeah, sure k and that morality is a story
as wild as I've found, morality is really a story
reality doesn't have morality.
It doesn't need it, it's just reality it doesn't need a good a bad or an ugly
life is not doing that right in life, It's not actually going this one's
good, and this one's bad right this oak tree good you know this oak tree
bad, you know that.
Hey, it's not doing that, right? it's not going this oak tree beautiful.
This oak tree, ugly.
Right like it's not it doesn't exist, because everything is one
everything is equal everything is sourced not once ago, but in
the moment in the moment it's arising
it's a projection of this light this projection of this perfection in that
moment so it cannot be good.
It cannot be bad.
It cannot be ugly we create this story and we tell ourselves
that this is the story that we need in order for people to get along together,
which is another story because we're all fricking source,
we're all one we don't need a rule play to get along with
each other you know, it's not like someone's teaching the horses
how to be with each other, you know it's a story, story on the story on the story,
because we are free fundamentally, we are free.
We cannot lose our freedom.
We are so free and that freedom can't contain the story of right or wrong
there really is no such thing in reality crazy as it sounds
and then I don't think it's for you guys in your room,
but you guys will face that conversation with people in other rooms that you'll need
that'll say right so then serial killers aren't wrong.
They can just pick up guns and kill everybody and there's nothing wrong with that.
Nice try movie spiritual person or something like that, right?
And the true answer is if where we are is yes because you know why?
It happened.
Us deciding it was bad or wrong didn't prevent it from happening at all
in fact may have even done the other thing it encouraged it
but our opinion about it is happening after the fact.
You know, our rule play hasn't actually affected the form at all
and if we look to the form very specifically there's a lot of interesting things that happen
if we look very very directly at the form so the way this really came home for me, I
remember this a lot because as a woman who was extremely traumatized
in her life and a victim of sexual crime multiple times
over, and all of it traumatized in my system and I wake up to reality
and it suddenly becomes very clear that we have to accept right, we have to
and then it seems like it's such a stupid like duh statement
because it's like because rape exists like we can't pretend to not see rape like
we like our morality is blinding us to what is here,
and if we look at what's here, it feels like acceptance is is allowing it
to come forward but acceptance doesn't do that at all
it helps it to be seen and dissolved is what happens to it when we actually welcome
it and really look at it.
So here I am having to really welcome rape, with a total welcome
with a like it's a freaking movement in existence, it just shows up.
Here it is and this like fully and I can feel what it
I feel that you can feel what I'm sensing here
like I feel that like what that is like to actually bring this part of ourselves that
is so NO to war, to rape
so, you know like NO but to actually do this movement, to actually
do that movement and actually bring it in, to look at it, to
really welcome it, to see because it's freaking, like I'm woman, because
it's freaking here you know and our pretending to not see it, by shaming
it, by morality, is is allowing it to breathe.
It's giving it the subversive energy instead of just bring it out, and really look and
really look but from this full acceptance, non judgement,
no morality existence is putting it here so, what is this?
so what is this movement? and it's an, and then you discover a lot of
amazing things now it was necessary for me to do that, it
may not be necessary for you to do that.
All I'm suggesting is that when you're up against morality, it's a fear story, and it's
not true.
So for me, a huge part of my life has been a part of the story of this this kind of fulfillment
that it's a fulfilling movement for this one to be a teacher for real
and as a teacher it's really important that I really understand what rape is
because I work with people who have had that experience
and so I need to show them how to unravel it and how to pull all that trauma
out of their system so I've got to know exactly what it is
so this is why it was an intelligent move for me.
So this is why in that moment it arose for me to look at
I'm not suggesting that we all need to start to look at everything that's here
I'm suggesting we need to look at our morality and begin to recognize that it's fear.
It's just fear, and it's so entrenched to be necessary, some kind of necessary movement
s is there a difference between a value and a moral?
Can you talk about if there is any difference between morality and boundaries?
k yeah, they're they're really different so a value is going to be very connected to
that delicious Yes.
It's it's a unique flavor of ourselves so it's this thing where it's like I like
pistachio I hate strawberry or I you know in a way, which we could almost
say, that's you know a preference or something, but it's a unique aspect of our being and
it changes its dynamic, you know, it has movement to
it.
So then values would be similarly related, but they tend to have less change
we tend to have always liked truth even as children.
We just wanted what was true or we just wanted what was compromised
or we were just spiritually bent even as children or we were just conscious.
We just knew there was something more to reality even as children
so they're a little more fixed but they're part of that unique flavor of
ourselves versus the morality
so the morality is something, it's a it's a cultural storytelling that we're conditioned
inside of that says killing is bad.
And if we didn't call it bad, everybody would be doing it
s the observation is that morality is is an attempt, it's fear-based
because it's an attempt to control outcome, imagining that if you don't put laws, It's
gonna happen again.
k Yes, what we see is the opposite is sometimes true, right yeah that if we actually know
what it is to die we actually know what to kill is then there
might be a lot more consciousness around killing which might mean there's a lot less killing.
Maybe.
you know like but it's just that like if we all knew this is not required, because it's
not arising authentically for you guys but if we all really really knew what rape
was like everybody like everybody walking on the
street, everybody fundamentally thoroughly knew what
rape was I don't think it would happen so much,
it was just completely completely out of the frickin closet, very very clear
everybody knew the roots, everybody knew the source, everybody knew what happens,
everybody knows what exists I think we just get a lot more clear and clarity
keeps us safer so I'm not suggesting that's what we do.
But yeah, the opposite is true is that we happen to have a kind of an evolution
where we believe that morality is important and we think that that's the reason that there
isn't all of the crimes and da da da da except as soon as we take a deep quick look
we can see that's not the case we really take a quick deep look at the prisons,
what we see is a lot of systematic poverty, systematic abuse, systematic,
you know, like that's what we see a lot of right?
even nutritional deficits, you know like we're seeing that you know
as opposed to like people who generally like to kill people
he don't like it it's just we don't tend to see a lot of that
and if we start to look at the bigger movements right
if we look at like the bombing in our land or the the shooting in our land
or if we look at some of these movements of Isis
and we look at these bigger movements, we see such an intense bottle of fear.
Just an unbelievable amount of fear moving in a way that the fear feels
we all know fear, right?
It's incredibly, well, it's hypnotic and incredibly captivating.
It has these two signatures.
This is really important and I'm telling you something that you need to pay attention to,
you know so this is what's the movement in there, really
really tight, and this complete conviction and hypnotic conviction,
that this it has to be what is.
right there's very little we see very little clarity moving in any of these actions at
all and we see that morality isn't a support in
these things for real s I'm resonating with what you're saying and
it's new for me and it feels radical k I know
s and this part and there's a part of me that goes, wait, wait, what about our whole culture?
I mean, I don't really care about I mean, I you know, I mean I have fun, but there's
a little bit of an earthquake going on, just a little
k Yeah s I'm willing to let go of all that, absolutely
k say that again s I'm so willing to let go of all that because
… k what's earthquaking?
s … because I see the truth of it yeah, and yeah, I just feel so conditioned
k yeah, but look to see what's shaking s Well, I, I'm, I got like, what's shaking?
I feel like what's all over my body was shaking and there's like prickles and cold,
I'm cold all of a sudden.
k Yeah it's fear s kind of
k yeah yeah s it's fear.
But I'm so willing to let it go.
k Great.
It may not happen in this moment.
s Oh I want it to.
But it feels very radical to me k what happens if we live without our morality?
s Yeah, I just k what if all you had was clarity,
s well that would be so cool yeah, k but just look practically in your life right
, just look practically in your life at movements with your kids, or movements
with your friends or movements with the community
s or everybody k but for you personally,
if you go without your morality personally in each of those relationships
and the only thing that's showing up is clarity then,
it's like suddenly there's room for real connection even if it's real disconnection,
but it's connection and then there's like
reality reality wins over morality because it's real,
it's reality.
And here's the thing, people have a different everybody has a different morality right
who's morality are you going to take?
ISIS morality? because that's a morality.
That is a very strong morality.
Trump's morality?
Gonna take Trump's morality?
cuz that's a very specific morality.
A Catholic morality?
You're gonna take that morality?
there's a lot of different moralities which one are you going to pick?
s does the anger then dissolve?
k what do you mean?
s If you remove the good or the bad, the judgement about that which has happened to you,
and you examine it and you look at it, where does the rage go?
k Well, then the rage is equally welcome to be here and the rage is equally met
and equally welcomed and so then it does begin its dissolve, absolutely,
because that's all anything, any movement ever wants
is to be met it's only here to fulfill itself, right?
Everything is just arising as a movement of fulfillment
once it's seen, once it's met, it's on to the next fulfillment right
like it's, whatever it is, even though our mind might not term it as a fulfillment
it's you know, it's a form that came in every piece of those forms have just come
to fulfill themselves.
And once that's done, it moves so the rage of course is so important because
the rage has all that boundary information so it won't fully dissolve until all those
boundaries are really heard and by really heard, I mean embodied and lived,
you know then then it dissolves but I had this really, part of my ass-kicking
that I've been through this week is that my, my abuser, has been sitting in
a place where, we have a kind of a relationship where all
the rage is dissolved, had dissolved, all the story was completely dissolved
it was just like so and it wasn't because I had that agenda.
I never had that agenda.
I was, in fact I had the opposite agenda.
I had I'm gonna kill the fucker and I'm gonna remember this so no one else gets hurt
and I'm gonna like nourish off of this a lot and I'm gonna like identify, this is the story
of me, you know was actually how that whole thing moved until
awakening happened and all of this was sitting in so much effort,
the effortless had to just come for it, you know to start to unravel it.
It just is the natural movement.
So and all this extraordinary movement of forgiveness came up
all this is in the new book but these movements of forgiveness came up,
which again, I didn't ask for them.
I didn't want them I never sign up for that like forgiveness
101 courses.
Not at all.
I don't like them, And after awakening, I don't like them because
love doesn't move like that we don't get to choose or pick love
and that's what forgiveness is.
It's love, right love descends upon us, if we're lucky, even if we're not available,
it will descend on us.
God damn it.
So all these layers and layers of forgiveness came through and came through and came through
and I got to see so clearly these movements with him.
I got to see the innocence.
I got to see that he and I are one, that this was just this movement fulfilling itself
and frankly if this movement was gonna fulfill itself it was he took a worse role
like that's a harder role to play.
It's actually easier to be the victim than the perpetrator,
it's easier to be killed than to kill right, so it's like oh, actually he took the hard
road and years and years of different layers of
these movements came up other movements of like wow there's such a
fulfillment for this one to do this such a fulfillment
it's just so frickin effortless and fantastic.
It's just the best and then part of being at this point required
that point and minutes are like, shit! you know Shit, that this piece of fulfillment
is so without morality at this level, so doesn't give a shit that it went through
all that suffering.
That's not even a story of suffering, like that even the suffering was like him
it was like a what the hell we're just playing here, and like tell this story.
Okay, tell this story, like it's so without a piece of it at all,
but there was that layer right was like, oh my god
because pre awakening, there was a huge morality that we did not have to suffer like this,
you know post, it's just like oh yeah, right, it's
actually okay it was like, oh and like even that falls off
and dissolves and so layers and layers of forgiveness,
so I recently came to this place in the last little while
so for about ten or fifteen years have been sitting in this place with this man,
whereby we have this sort of peace, this kind of balance I thought,
where he's still who he is which is like a more revolting Trump is really
what this man is and nothing has changed there at all.
And, but there's this movement around all the bio biological family, my bio found
that he sort of like comes like at Christmas, or a Thanksgiving event.
Then you just have this like offensive really really kind of repulsive human over here
making everybody uncomfortable and there's this real movement of like this
whole biological family and everybody who's suffered any kind of trauma
gets this it's like you get traumatized and everyone
else pretends it didn't happen and then and that that movement is a violation
to the fact that happen and but we've all played both roles
we have been witness to people who have been traumatized and we've downplayed it
and pretended it didn't happen to them either right like this is
this is because we're not practiced at just welcoming and letting it be here.
So then so then there's this movement with the bio family is pretending none of this
happened and then here's this horrible person who actually
is responsible for it and then to make matters worse is he sometimes
talks about it but in this really horrible way
like you're just mad because I was strict, like, which is just like crazy
like to not pick up a fork and just stick it through his eyes right
like it's just like you and then you're just mad at me because I use my fork wrong.
so what was happening was this compromise of the way I loved this human
because I actually really loved this man I can't change the fact that that's the case,
but I don't like this man, even a little bit and it also makes the people who love me uncomfortable
that they have to be around this man because they also would like some explanations
around it, you know like so the whole thing is a little out of balance,
right? it's in this kind of compromised place to
kind of speak to the love, in a way so, um recently it just brew up brewed up
to like put it in right alignment and right alignment is just like never again
in this lifetime or any lifetime see you again, bye.
but like no, it's like the death, like the death, the death death
and in order for that death to arise, it really had to like come in like a muthafucka, you
know, like it had to, basically what it looked like
was like a week and a half of just incredible harassment from him you
know through my emails and my phone like every line of communication, just like
massive harassment coming at me so for it to just be like NO, he's you know
like no for all time and I realized I wasn't ready for him to die
and and I've had to mourn the death of this man
ironically, fucking hell and so I had to go through the heartbreak
of the death is what I've had to go through
and it's been very curious through the whole thing
so to get back to the piece of life if we really look at what's going on
does it make the rage dissolve? it makes it dissolve, yeah,
but at the same time, it's still if we're willing to put if we're willing to be in clarity
it's gonna put it into clarity and we may not want shit to go there, but
it's gonna go there anyway, and some of that might look like really challenging
things for us so it's there's not a simple answer to
but there's a bigger answer that says everything happening for all of us has such an intelligent
movement it's just got this incredible right action
to it and sometimes we can't harvest that for a
number of years or sometimes, but we but often we can sense
it.
We can sense the intelligence, we can sense that there will be a harvest
at some point which is a kind of an interesting thing about
life Should we talk about some of the stuff that
goes on in your lives?
What's the time?
We've got a good chunk of time here.
s Riffing off what we were just talking about, I'm being a bit of a broken record
Talked about this at our last session I'm obsessed with the election and with
the state of the country, And just terrified that we're headed for
civil war just seeing people with the Trump signs in
my neighborhood and seeing people put their carry on with
the ak-47 sticker on their cars right after the midtown massacre several years ago
k Good, okay, so the first thing you want to do is we really want to bring it in.
We got to welcome it all in, gonna pull off the morality story
and we have to bring the whole movement in to really look at what that is,
why are these people so passionate about this man and wanting him to be the leader
what's going on for them?
what's happening, if we're all one, and we're all equal, we're not better than them
and then then what's going on?
so, what do you think?
s well I was thinking about this and I feel that the end of the line for all of us is
that we just want to feel safe
and they feel that this person is going to deliver safe.
And that's as far as I got.
k This is good, this is good.
we've all been kind of looking at this so what else do we see?
s they want a change k they want change.
What do they want change from?
s the structures, they want people to have jobs, they want economies to be restored
k so specifically we can say the American people –
there's a bunch of people of a definition of what American is
unique from any other person in the world and the uniqueness of it is that this is this
is the thing right that every country has
an Australian says they're unique from everybody else,
or Canadians.
So the American piece is different from everybody else is that there's a capitalist economy
which is a free-market economy, which is an equalizer.
So the story goes if you work hard and you be strategic and smart,
then anyone can make something of themselves, and then you pay for your things.
You pay for your education, you pay for your healthcare, because you earn it,
and you earn in a specific way, and it's just levelized.
like it just makes But if I work very hard and do this and I
have to pay for their education, then I'm feeling like my freedom is not very
free.
And I don't even like the way they choose to be educated.
I'm the one paying for it is the field, right?
So there's a movement that says I want to not pay for education.
I don't want to pay for health care, and I don't want to I want to pay the bill
of America's services.
I want to work and pay the bill of my family and then let my family choose whatever they
want.
So that change, they want that change, and they and they're passionate about that
change.
However, we're seeing that the stats is that in terms of environmental illness
the world is actually much better than one thought it was gonna be,
certainly the predictions of Gore and all of that 11th hour
it's way more better but way better than we thought.
In terms of global economics, although there's been some incredible hits,
It's actually considerably better than it was even seven years ago.
We can see that on the human – murders, deaths, human trafficking, that kind of stuff,
is like so much better than it ever has been.
The eighties being the worst, but kind of a resurrection in the 90s,
but it's just considerably better.
So we're seeing this basically globally a much less shadowed space.
So possibly bringing the shadow forward is helping us to bring in some real clarity
to some situations and people are playing that role
so what if we saw that that sticker that trump sticker as this like you know,
there's myself over there wanting safety, afraid and needing to play that part
which is a harder part to play in a way maybe, than my part
and this sort of movement that goes okay, I have to play my part
which is an interesting thing, right because it's like people are really struggling,
s and so what is the relationship then between the fear and the rage?
That's where I was going because that rage-- yeah, how do you see that playing out?
k well, let's look at that together because we can see that rage is boundaries right?
It's anger, it's boundaries, it's wanting to set some boundaries.
And so there's the wanting set boundaries around you know my money, my income, my energy,
my work just wanting to set boundaries around you
know in America it's like my home is my private
space that government can't come into they're wanting to protect that boundary
which can also include property boundaries and you know, like just like that I can I
get to do whatever I want in this space s and then so then right to bear arms also
kind of connects to fear and to rage.
Yeah, there's a lots of determinations k yeah, absolutely I want to have the right
to protect my home, and my property in any way I see fit
s I think that this might tie into what may now start to shake, when you talk about morality
because it's clear that morality can't be legislated
and we think morality can be legislated thou shalt nots, we can make laws around them
and I think that what's happening maybe collectively it's not even just the American dream.
It's this dream or this belief that this type of government,
that any other outside government can support us or control of us or make things better
for us, and it's we're going through a serious upgrade,
this is the government and the only time you are ever really self-governed,
you're governed by God and to think that a government can give you
your education or your health through your –
it's a system that's just never worked.
You know, I think we're all feeling that earthquake under our feet start to crumble
and we have a group like this that is getting this serious upgrade in what self-government
really is and this source of abundance and source of
health and source of um and when you have a dream, you know something
that you've placed your whole life you based you know your whole life on I want to
and then you realize it didn't work you're gonna go to rage mm-hmm you know
and then hopefully you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
And you realize, you pick out what was good and what was strong
and what got you where you are and and you don't crumble over it.
it just ends up making you making you stronger.
k in a country like America we're going to have to educate ourselves
on how to live with a person because it doesn't collaborate in the way
another country would like for instance now most of the other first
world countries have a socialist government it's a very different government
which means those people have an agreement over what our role of government is
and our role of government is to pay for schools, it's to pay for healthcare, and for education
that these are the top salaries and an infrastructure, right?
yeah so there's this story about this this this is the value, and this is
and then we paid for that, and we get that, however happy we are with the service or not,
but there's that communal And America has a very different structure,
doesn't have that right it has this capitalist free economy
and in that space, we have got to embrace diversity right,
we have to recognize that in that kind of an economy somebody feels incredibly passionate
that it that a baby's life begins at conception and that that's a person there
and that it's not, you're not allowed to kill the person is perhaps their belief system.
And then how do we have that beside someone who says no?
I mean a woman has a right, a woman has a right.
She gets the right to choose and you know, so what we have is diversity,
right?
So we have to figure out how to navigate diversity which part of it is that we're going to have
to recognize if someone doesn't have our values, they are not less than us, right
that they're just a different value they are not less educated, less smart, less than one,
less you know they just have a very different value and
that our values don't agree but by having all of these diverse values
we have a much more thorough conversation right,
we have an actual conversation, we have at the actual dialogue
because we have these different viewpoints so it goes back to the conversation in a way
that's like, how do we connect with people who have different
values, and we love them.
right Part of the way we can connect is recognizing
there's just, there's one and that someone who is supporting let's say
in this example, someone who is supporting Trump isn't threatening
our humanity or our safety they're wanting to, they have a very passionate
expression and they want the right to passionately be
expressed and if we can allow and have space for that
conversation, they're gonna a) start to feel safer right
and b) start to feel like they're welcome and they belong and start to be heard
And what happens when something gets really met, gets seen, and heard, and welcomed,
it dissolves, it moves, right?
so it gets stuck in that place where we're afraid when we tap the morality sticker on
it and then we like pull back, instead of recognizing
that and America is a very diverse place
we don't really have to search very far for this extraordinary diversity
of so much culture and so much you know viewpoints.
It's a country built on immigrant you know that has such great incredible diverse experience
and it's global immigration, right? it's not European immigration right.
It's this global immigration.
So it's this place that Americans has sat in a less-than-perfect space with around diversity
and so it's possible that all of this is the beginning of us learning how to navigate diversity
to let it be.
s So Kiran, is the lesson for us as individuals here where we are right now
taking in these moralities, whether it's the election or whatever
and facing them as if they were our own issues and facing the fear
and eventually getting to the point of dissolving that, that makes us an upgrade
and helps us to be more effective to either, for ourselves to live more sanely in this
chaos, or you know to help others to move, to make
that movement forward I mean, bring it back to an individual basis,
I mean, we're all worried about what everybody else is doing, but
k yeah, but well, so we can see it's up for a few things, right
we can see that there's a little bit of wounding around this past event in Connecticut.
So it's triggering some of that we can see that _____ is beautifully navigating
her own relationship with fear.
And so this whole aspect of the election is a nice trigger point of like
are you sure you want to leave fear behind?
Are you sure you don't want to juice off it for longer?
This is really important, I'm telling you something, you really have
to pay attention to this.
So so _____'s navigating her own relationship with all of that,
so it's really alive and active for her over here, I could give a flying fuck.
I would not pay attention even one iota, it's not at all up for me.
So I don't have a personal relationship to this election at all.
I had a brief personal relationship to this election but it dissolved when it needed to
dissolve and it was like I haven't paid attention at
all like s I think that's where I've come to, and you
know-- yeah, I mean It's kind of gotten to the point where it's
dissolved for me too.
The fear is not there anymore, because I know that we're going to be ok
Regardless of who gets elected.
k I think that's the story I think that's what brexit sent forward for
us all I mean that's like nuclear implosion on the
political scene and they're doing really fine.
really we've projected this big bomb and it was like the biggest bump with like
a week after Brexit, you know, like that's it
so there's this I think we're also seeing that in Denmark
also yet we're getting this messaging that it's
like as a global society we are actually not so country based
and that the impact of the global movements have bigger impacts
on our economics, our health care, our well-being than these than country country politics.
s I was going to say something along those lines because
we are such a small country, my country is …
but we, geopolitically, the United States is so important in a way,
you know it's always being, like we always knew our place in the world
in relationship to the big brother, which was North America right.
USA, Canada, Mexico So everybody prays – my mother goes to mass,
praying for the election, right In Latin America, everybody is concerned.
And so what I'm trying to say … and I'm going down to Costa Rica you know,
this election it's like that's not the point, because unfortunately
what happens here affects so much of everybody yeah,
I mean it is because I used to live here.
It's my second home and I have a dual citizenship yeah, I could vote, but I already let it go.
I didn't even register to vote in these elections.
So we are so interconnected and I didn't know that when I lived here
you know half my life almost, many years when I went out, and then it's back again.
It's so interconnected, what happens to the dollar affects everybody.
k But what happens to the dollar is affected by what happens with the euro.
and what happens with the euro is affected by what happens with the yen,
and what happens with the yen is affected by the dollar.
So in fact the dollar is not the leader.
Gold's not even the leader right s What I want to say is that we're connected.
k It's so connected, and that's what we saw, right?
So Brexit happened, three trillion dollars was wiped off the global stock exchange, right?
So that's a very direct, that's like entire villages in China have no income and will
starve right?
Like that's the direct input of that.
So this happens within the week right One of the biggest you know and sort of most
charismatic, and most outspoken is Richard Branson who has you know who personally
was projecting to lose a third of his wealth which is a huge part of British the British,
you know, gross national product, is all of his companies.
He managed instead to just shift it around.
It just got a reorganization is what it did, and so it didn't take one-third of his company,
it didn't even take an eighth.
It took this like little tiny piece that he restructured and rebranded.
And what we're even seeing is that however many months later we are
we're not even like six months out of that, like it's not far –
but you know, it was actually a really good reorganization …
and they're expecting a huge return right.
So there's like At this point, when we're looking at these levels where it's just so
interconnected, It's a very interesting, you know, it's
you know you'd have to have a PhD in economics to even project
but then we're seeing that those projections are totally off.
And so it's like it's like there's a there's an interconnectedness that that's at play,
and that interconnectedness is not really needing, isn't so deeply affected by one piece
of it as much as we're projecting it might be
and that's kind of what we've been seeing from England,
but but who knows, you know, like so we're in that place.
But I think that the bigger story is that is this a big play on your psyche?
Is this actually alive in your world in a real way?
right.
It's just an irritating fly? in which case it's not really up for you.
right?
Is it this like major impact that you're just completely consumed in,
then it's up for you.
And then we get to look at like what's really going on?
So the first thing we have to do is really bring so this is the story right
like whatever is up in our lives, it's there for an intelligent reason, it's necessary,
so we just really have to bring it up, and we have to really look at it,
which means we have to really accept it, we pull away our morality story of whatever we
are right, the fear that you're feeling.
We need to welcome it.
We need to let it be here, we need to see what's really going,
we need to welcome what's being touched, in the wounds and where it's being hit
and what it's you know It's like fear of safety, right?
This is the big one that you've been trying to figure out in the first place, right?
So here we are right vert And then part of that might be bringing in
all these other aspects and seeing them and welcoming them and letting them in here,
letting them be seen and letting them move, because the truth is it's all just light being
projected in a moment.
It's a mirror, it's not really there.
And so what's our relationship with the mirror?
And what's it pushing on?
right The mirror is gonna mirror things that are
gonna push on our stuff so that we can up-level our stuff, so we can
start to move through our stuff.
In the house of relationship, I had this little jagged corner and this needed,
this triggered it and hit it so that I had to start working it and starting
to move it and that's just gonna create all kinds, and
it already has created all kinds of ripples and all kinds of other relationships in my
life, to just like, even in subtle ones, I was talking about like
just like you know the person who does my landscaping
It was the wrong person, I had to get someone else, like Wrong, this doesn't work.
Little subtle relationships all over the place needing cleaning up
and needing to reorganize.
And because this this chunk was unhealed in the mirror,
I had these what looked like really great relationships,
but if you looked closer, some of them were a bit jagged.
And then what happened is one of them exploded and pushed on this jagged piece.
And so as I started to unravel this jagged, these jagged pieces dissolved,
so that better pieces could come in, which is the up-level process.
Yep, and there's no end to upgrading.
It's an eternal movement.
The great news is that you get to coast in large periods of time
when there's very little to no wounding, large periods of time that are just like hugs
movement of fulfillment.
s Do I get to rest?
k Probably not a for a little while.
later tonight in stillness, in meditation.
Yeah there there are places that we can
s do you always have to come inside to get to stillness like we do?
or you can just twinkle twinkle you're there?
k For me, I'm always there.
so let's say in my teachings the way I work right is
I am different from most nondual teachers where I just go for the wound.
Where the wounds are, so all the work and all the tools and all the practices are like
where's the wound and how do we unravel those wounds?
And so in the core of my teaching, which is the classes –
So we've got these three classes: a body class where we do the first excavation
and pulling up the wounds.
right? and then we go into accelerated healing, which
is we go step by step by step on what it is to unravel wound from beginning
to end then we do the course in fearlessness, which
is how do you navigate real reality?
what happens?
right But the first year you take those you just
get fucking blown out of the water, right?
Cuz it's just like boom boom boom boom, so then you gotta come back to take them again
so that you come back and take them again and things get a little deeper.
And then if people don't have very many pain bodies,
just two rounds through and you're no longer moving from fear,
you're not making choices from fear at all, you're and you're really navigating what happens.
So at that point you can enter master class.
And in the master class piece, we're really seeing it's just kind of like up against reality.
It's just like it's just like how is reality going? you know
And what we've saw in the first master class is that
it was like six weeks into master class, _____ just has a big awakening
and then _____ has a pretty solid kind of opening
because it's just like you just run into reality right, because if there's nothing in the way,
yeah, you're just up against reality … and if you're sitting in a community of people
where people are – some some people are living very deep in that
reality and some people are navigating it –
it has an influential factor.
I'm just like oh, when someone's going I see this
and then there's nothing in the way for you to see that too,
and you look there, it starts to have this movement.
But everybody has their own unique journey, and it's not, I don't think it is more valuable
to be awake than not awake.
I don't think that that's true even a little bit .
And I think that coming face to face with reality is a great thing
and it's naturally gonna happen when you have very few wounds.
it sometimes happens when you have a lot of wounds also right, which is me right.
So it's not it we can't say one way or the other, like we can't create a recipe for it,
but we can say that whether or not you're awake or not, it's quite easy to come to stillness,
I am I would say, and it doesn't require this deep look inside
because you're not carving away all the wounded places right to get to the stillness.
it's like if there's no wounded places, there's a lot of stillness.
Also in each step of the journey, for each of us, it's always about fulfillment,
like everything, so there's not a place that you're going to get to that's like this
is fulfilling.
It's like if we're following that delicious yes, we're walking fulfillment all the time.
And so in which case it's like, who cares where you're going?
it's like what's this moment like?
Is this moment having its fulfillment? you know and And that's kind of a cool thing.
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