Hello dear cannafine audience.
My name is Micha and I switch into English right
now because I'm surrounded by
celebrities
I've Tommy Chong here. Hi Tommy!
Hey how are you? - I'm fine. How are you Tommy?
I am high. Very high. So it's your first
time. We're sitting here in Berlin and
how do you enjoy the Berlin-high?
Is it a special high here in Berlin?
It's a very special high. There's a lot of
beautiful places here in Berlin and so
many beautiful girls!
You used to live in Paris with your wife. How is your
experience about cannabis in the 70s and
the 80s in the 90s in Europe and now?
Did it change?
Oh yeah well the thing is back in the
day especially you know with Amsterdam
it was legal and no one bothered anybody
in Amsterdam and no one bothered anybody
in Paris you know I mean you have to be
a like a hardened dealer you know to
have the police after you
but if you were just a user like I was
or a tourist everybody left you
alone and and you could get high and we did.
I saw you being busted by the
police today. How was that? That was fun.
Like an old movie you know they put me
in a police car but it was a movie
car so it was good because it had cushions
on the seats. You have a medical brand
you have medical you you have a medical
strain or you have two medical
strains in the u.s.? Yes well since
I got you know cancer and then I treated
my cancer with the finest
marijuana it had to be the best and so
in my search for my cure
I found so many really good growers that
wanted me to help them sell their weed.
And so we formed a Chong's Choice
company with it with the mum-and-pop
growers and then we take their stuff put
it in our packages and we test it first
you know so the quality is always the
highest. It's the highest quality.
I can say so because after my last visit at your
house I tried it out and in Germany I
have a medical recommendation so I can
really tell that the Chong's Choice, the
haze it was even better than my
pharmaceutical grade I have here: Yes yes
oh no you're in California well anywhere
in the world really you get the
high-grade quality marijuana you know
you just have to have it growing fresh
that's what I see you know healthy and
then it's all good. Are you allowed to grow?
Oh yeah, well even when I wasn't
allowed to grow I grew. When I was doing
movies with Cheech I had my house redone
by hippies. All the hippies came from
Canada and they worked on my house and
they in the end back then we would get
marijuana with seeds in it from Mexico
and so we had all these seeds and my
gardener who was from Italy when I was
gone doing movies he decided to grow, to
plant all the seeds that I he found and
he planted a plantation. We had about 30
plants sinsemilla growing in my backyard
up a mountain. Up a hill and it had
its own natural water supply and he grew
this about 30 plants of the finest
sinsemilla
and he had to sit out there at night to
keep the deer the deer wanted to come
and eat it and so then he didn't know
that you if you peed on the plants that
would keep all the animals away. He found
that out later. So I grew. I grew that was
way back in nineteen
eighty nineteen eighty. That's early so at
that time sinsemilla I was really
still something very special very unique
wasn't it? Well we sold it. You know we had
so much I didn't know what to do with it
we couldn't give it away we gave some
away you know and then my lawyer
it was my lawyer that knew a guy that
would buy all the weed and so we sold it
we put it in big cartons and sold it
like drug dealers you know? So at that time you
lived your movies you can say that? Oh yeah
we were doing movies, but no no
you couldn't sell it. You know, I mean you
know it was very highly illegal but it was
highly in need Everybody wanted it you
know. We got a nice price for it and I
gave a lot away to jazz musicians.
That's your origin. A lot of our
audience doesn't know that your
origin is.. You are a musician
Yeah I play guitar.
And yeah and I know a lot of jazz people
you know. That's that's where I got my
philosophy from, You know there are the
jazz players you know because you know
they're like the Guru of our days you know.
Excuse me for a second because I
want to come to our second guest which
is also a very big celebrity in the
cannabis scene it's Alan Dronkers a
part of the Sensi Seeds company. Hi Alan.
Hi. Well you know I'm not the real
celebrity the real celebrity is my
father
who was the same age as Chong. He's
not here right now but as you know he
did start many good things and we ...
I'm his oldest son I was lucky enough to
meet many great people and get involved
already early in my life and we've
always been sort of rebellious trying to
do our thing trying to make this world
also a better place so we have also the
Hash, Marijuana and Hemp Museum in Amsterdam. So
we did a lot of Education and a lot of
work also and also with fiber hemp we
started a company so we have a true
passion for this plant and my whole
family is sort of like involved now and
we are just grateful to see that that
there's that so many people are picking
the fruits, literally. Our seed business
has always been a the one that made us
most famous but we were happy to do so
many things and with so many people and
today I'm here and I'm with a
hero of my youth. And my daughter just
got 17 and she just started smoking weed
and when we were together in
Amsterdam last time I said you know stay
with me here in the apartment and smoke
a little bit with dad, you know and she
said okay - And you know what I showed her
Cheech and Chong movies and we were
laughing together
you know like... Because she never saw them
and if you get the first time high it
doesn't matter how old your movies are
people are laughing and it's still as
beautiful today as it was and really
there was a time in my youth that I knew
some of your movies I knew all the words.
Thommy. - I have a question you know
you're an idol for a lot of people who
are into the cannabusiness today into
the marijuana business. You're a big Idol
for them. You started it
not to educate or to teach people I
think you started is more out of a sense
of humor didn't you? Well yeah you know
the best way to get any message across
is to make it funny you know make it
truthful make it funny
and that was very easy but it was the
audience that really made us do what we
did you know you know when we would try
some things on the stage when we do
anything with pot everybody loved it me
laugh and so that's why we just took it
went ran with it you know. So in the 70s
I think you never expected that like 40 years
later it will pay back like this are you
happy about that? Do you feel good about that?
Well either way I can take it.
You know. It's fun to be popular but I love
what I'm doing it so wouldn't matter but
if it was a big success or no success.
The pot really brings out the artisticness
in everybody no matter what they
do if they're drawing paintings or
robbing a bank you know they'll do it
very artistically. So it's a beautiful
beautiful plant. You know I wouldn't be
here without it. Of course you have been
in Amsterdam a lot of times.
Have you ever visited the Hash Marijuana and Hemp Museum from Ben Dronkers?
I'm not sure I
might have. You know, I've done a lot of
things in Amsterdam but I haven't been
back to Amsterdam you know as a movie
but we did the movies in 1980 you know
that was a long time ago.
And I've been back there now and then
but back then probably you smoked some
of his strains already hmm? Oh oh
from Sensi Seeds. I you know I almost never went
on the ground I was on the barges
all the time in Amsterdam. All the barges
they were kind of quite a few where the
pot people lived on the barge and I was
on one barge where they had a fire and
and what he would do he would get
packets of marijuana seeds and he would
put him on a balloon and he would shoot
him up in the air toward East Germany
and the balloons would go across and
then they would land somewhere but there
were seeds and I imagine that help start
to the East-Germans growing weed you know?
I like to think it did. Thy did grow weed
I assure you. Before the Wall came down
also the East-Germans were growing Weed.
I know I know
it doesn't take much you know and then
if you got weed you can live under any
circumstance. Because everything makes
sense then. Marijuana just helps you get
through it all because it makes you feel
good and it keeps your mind alert. And it
keeps your appetite going. Let me ask you
Alan.
when Tommy was already a big star
you were a youngster. So how is
it to be taught cannabis education by
his family I try to educate my people
but I never experienced cannabis
education by my father. How is that?
Well that's a beautiful thing. I think you
know that's also what I got from my
father I try to pass on to my children.
It's first of all education you know they
better know and understand then
don't know anything and make many
mistakes. And it's with everything in
life so yeah you know and and cannabis
is part of it so I'm happy that I can
enjoy it also now with my daughter and
when my son gets older one day,
we're going to be buddies and smoke
together also that's what I look forward
to.
I'm not so much of an alcohol man so I
don't like it to see my children drink
alcohol. So my choice is to say okay you
know smoke with dad or drink a beer but
anyway, make choices in life also
and know what you're doing. So then it's
okay. And it's so much fun. They're the
new generation again you know they're
the the fresh vines that suddenly
realized what this plant is. I think it's
also good for the next generation not to
grow up with rumors but with knowledge
about cannabis. What do you say? We grew
up with rumors didn't we? Well they can
be more advanced than we were but
everybody has to learn all this stuff
for themselves. We can only be good role
models. That's all we can be. We can be
the best role model. It's up to them, the
kids to decide if they want to follow us
or not. Everybody has their own mission in
life and no one no two people are the
same and so what was good for us... When
people tell me like in Hollywood you
know they say: "You know I I don't want my
kid to be an actor. I don't want him to
go through what I went through." You know?
And I think how pompous is that. You know?
Because what if he wants to be an actor?
What if he wants to go through what
you went through? You know to me it's not
all about success it's all about the
journey. So Tommy thank you very much I
don't want to you know.. Enjoy the rest of
the evening enjoy Berlin. Thank you maybe
we can have some high-grade later?
I would love some.
Alan thank you very much for the
interview and I think it was a very long
day.. And a true honor and thank you also.
I really enjoyed everything very very
much. Thank you. Me as well thank you very
much. Thommy. Because I noticed when you lit
it up you smoked up but you never
offered anybody for you know.. This is for you!
If everybody 's got a big bag anyway...
I think i put the microphone away and we go back to privacy.
O kay bye-bye thank you very much Tommy.
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